No More Learning

Andwhatremainsforustodo? Thebest w a y i s n e v e r t o t r o u b l e o u r H e a d s a b o u t i t -, b u t t o go onstillinourownway.
Soc. My dearEutyphran,isitsogreatanllnhap- piness to be laugh'd at > For at bottom I believe the Tinchi- Atheniansdon'tmuchtroubletheirHeadstoexamine
nflerof whetheraManhasagreatCapacityornot;provi- thes^-T ded he does not go about to teach others what he
tgrnswellknows. ButIbelieveifaManshouldmakeithis
rvitbth businesstoteach, theywouldbedown-rightAngry, Account eitheroutofEnvyasyouintimate,orforsomeo-
%wmoi t^ierseasonthatweknownot.
'minthe Eat. 1havenomindtotrytomy Cost,asyou Atisojtbe do, what Sentiments they have of me.
jpostlis.
$oc-That'sanotherMatter$*Itmay beyouareve
ry reserv'd, and do not willingly communicate your W i s d o m to others, whereas Ia m affraid they think the ove I bear to all Mankind engages me too freely toteach'emallIknow, notonlywithoutaskinga Reward, but even by preventing them, and pressing 'emtohearme. Butiftheywouldcontentthem
selves with laughing at me, as you fay they do at you,it would be no unpleasant thing to spend some hours in this Court in Laughing and Divertisement ; but if they take up theMatter in earnest, none but you Devinersknow whatwillbetheEventofit.
Eut. Perhapsyoumaysustainnodamage,butmay
* Socratts makes useof the Confession which he has dravtn out . of Eutyphron, to show by this Devincr the Character of thole w h o weresetuptoteachReligion. Theyneithertaught,norrefuted any thing, but through fear lefc tiie People in Superstition a n d Ig
norance.
come
? ? Of HOLINESS. . i7j
come to a happy Issue in your Business, as well as I in mine.
Soc. Have you business here then ? are you Defen dant or Plaintiff?
Eut. Iam Plaintiff.
Soc. Whom do you prosecute? Eut,IfIshouldtellyou,youwouldtakemefor
a Foot
Soc. H o w ! D o you prosecute one that can't be
taken ? Has he got Wings ?
Eut. The Person I prosecute, instead of having
Wings, issooldthathecanscarcewalk.
Soc. Whoishe?
Eut. Tis my Father. ?
Soc. Your Father !
Eut. Yes my Father. Soc. Ofwhatdoyouaccusehim?
Eut. Of Murder.
Soc. Of Murder, good God ! That'san Accusati
on indeed above the comprehension of the People, who willneverconceivethatitcanbejust:anor dinaryManwouldhaveenoughtodotogiveitany tolerableColour. *Thisisathingthatbelongs only to him who is arriv'd at the highest pitch of Wisdom.
Eut. You say true, Socrates, it belongs only to such a Person.
Soc Is it any one of your Relations that your F a t h e r h a s k i l i ' d ? W i t h o u t d o u b t i t m u s t b e s o >, for you would not prosecute your Father in a Court of justice for the sake of a Stranger.
Eut. What an Absurdity is that, Socrates, toAjalfePrin- think that in this respect there is any difference be- C'P1' ? t0T
tween a Relation and a Stranger ! The thing isequal hpjt? "t00 thatWhichoughtchieflytobeconsider'd, istoex-farbecomes amine whether the Person that has kili'd him, did hjuflicttxi
Imptt).
*FromthisPrincipleofSmattsitfollows byajustconse quence, thatitisonlyGod'sProvince to command and autho rizesuchActionsasappearsevereandcrueltoNature, whichit agreatTruth.
T2 it
? ? i76 EUTrfB^OKi or;
itjustlyorunjustly. . Ifitwasjustly, lieoughthot to be put to any trouble, but if unjustly, you are oblig'd to prosecute him^ whatever Friend shiporRelationthereisbetweenyou. Tohave theleastConversation with him istomakeyour self an Accomplice of his Crime, and so it is not to prosecute him to bring him to Punishment, whichalonecanpurifieandexpiateyouboth. But 'toapprizeyou oftheFact. The deceasedwas-oneof
ourFarmers, whorentedapieceofLand ofus when we dwelt at Naxus : This Man having one day drank too much fell into apassion,andwas sotrans portedwithRageagainstone ofourSlavesthathe kill'dhim. My Fatherorder'dhimtobecastintoa
deep Pit with his Hands and Feet bound, and imme diately sent hither to consult * one of those who
havetheInspectionofReligiousMatters, andCafes of Conscience, to know what he ? should do with
him, and in the mean time neglected this poor Pri soner, andlefthimwithoutsustenance,asanAssassin whole Life was of no Coniequence ; so that he dyed : Hunger, Cold and the Weight of his Chains kill'dhim, beforethePersonmyfatherhadsentre- turn'd. Upon thisourwholeFamilyfallsuponme, becauseIlorthesakeofanAssassin, accusemy Fa therofMurder, whichtheypretendhehasnotcom m i t t e d -, a n d i f h e h a d , t h e y m a i n t a i n I o u g h t n o t t o prosecutehim,because thedeceased was aVillainand
a Murderer,and besides they fay 'tis an impious Acti on for a Son to prefer a Criminal Process against his Father ; so blind are they about divine things, and so uncapable of discerning what isProfane and Impi ous, fromwhatisJustandHoly.
Soc. But, I pray, Eutyphron^ do you your self think you so accurately understand all Divine things, and that you can so precisely distinguish between what
* In Gwttjhere were Interpreters of divine things, who were publick Persons, towhom the People address'd themselves in all weightyCases. Thosewhowereanythingdevoutwouldnotun dertaketheleastthingwithouthavingfirstconsulted than.
. . . . IS
? ? f Of HOLINESS. 277.
isHoly, and what isProfane, that the State ofthe Cafe being as you fay, you can prosecute your Fa- ther without fearing to commit an impious Action >
Eut. Else I should be very uneasy ; and Eiity- pbron would scarce have any advantage above other
Men, if he did not understand all these things per
fectly well.
? Soc. O admirable Eutypbron, I fee'thenjhe best T<< tbt
Course I can take, is to become your Disciple, and ir'^tflAd-
before the Determination of my Process, to let^"m^idn Melitusknow, that I havehithertolook'duponit^ w# ,-? .
as the greatest advantage in the World, tohave astruttedin good Understanding in Divine Things, and to be iWfcw*. w e l l i n s t r u c t e d i n R e l i g i o n ? , b u t n o w s e e i n g h e a c
cuses me of falling into Error, and of rashly intro
ducing new Opinions about the Deity, I have put
myselfintoyourSchool. Sothat,Melitus(I'll',
fay) if you acknowledge Eutypbron^ to be a Per
sonofAbilityinthoseMatters,andthathehasgood
Notions i I declare to you I have embrac'd the lame Sentiments. 'Thereforeforbeartoprosecuteme any
farther. Andifonthecontrary,youthinkEuty- pbron is not Orthodox, cause the Master to be call'd in question before you meddle with the Scho- lar;heisthecauseofallthisMischief, 'tishe
thatruinsbothhisFatherandMe. Heruinsmein- teachingmeafalseReligion,andheruinshisFa- > ther in prosecuting him by the Principles of this fame Religion, which you account so pernicious -, and if he continues to proiecute me without any regard to m y Request, or leaves m e to pursue you, you will not fail to make your Appearance, and to speak the same thing which I shall have signified to him.
Eut, Upon my Word, Socrates-, if he is so impudentastoattackme, I(hallsoonfindhisweak fide, and shall at least run but half the Danger.
Soc. I know it very well, and that is the reason I a m so desirous of being your Disciple, being well affur'd, that no Person is so bold as to dare-look
T3 you,
? . " ?
,
? ? %<<% EurYPFi^on^ ot,
y o u i n t h e F a c e ? , n o n o t M e l i t u s h i m s e l f ; w h o l o o k s so intently, and who can see so well to the bottom
w Vtfinitim
of my Soul, that he accuses me of Impiety.
In the mean time then, tell me, I beseech you what you just now affirm'd, and which you know sowell,viz. whatisHoly andJust, Impiousand Unjust, inrespectofkillingMen forInstance,and soinallotherSubjectsthatmay offerthemselvesto
us. IsnotSanctityalwayslikeitselfinallfortsof Actions, and is not Impiety, which is it's conttary, always thefame too, sothatthesameIdea,the same Character ofImpiety isalways found,inevery thing which isimpious ?
Eut. Tis certainly so, Socrates.
Soc. What is it then that you call Pious and Ho ly, Profane and Impious >
Eut. I call that Pious and Holy, for Example, which I a m doing to day, namely to prosecute eve- XY Man who commits Murder, Sacrilege, and such
otherCrimes,whetheritbeFather,Mother, Bro-
which
Sfpntsjromther,oranyotherPerson. AndIcallitanimpious
bindzeal, thing to suffer the Criminal quietly to enjoy his
Crime. Ipray,Socrates,mindwellwhatIfay? ,
I'llgiveyouverycertainProofs, thatmyDefiniti onis*conformabletotheLaw. Ihavealreadymen- tion'd it to many Persons, and have made 'em con fess,thatthereisnothingmorejust, thannotto spare a wicked Man, lethim be who he will : All M e n are convinc'd that Jupiter is the best and most just of all the Gods, and all agree, that he put his
FatherinChains, becausehe, contrarytoallmanner ,ofJusticedevourdhisChildren. Saturnhadbefore treated his Father with yet greater Severity for some other Fault. And yet People cry out against me, when I prosecute m y Father for an Atrocious Act of Injustice ; and they fall into a manifest Contradicti
* Tissoindeed;butitisillappliedhere;andisnottrueon allOccasions, asitjsnotonthis. ThatwhichEutyphronherecalls theLaw,istheLawofNature,whichteachesustoiroitateGod inallweknowofh<<n.
? : on,
? ? Of HOLINESS. 179
on, in judging so differently of the Actions ofthose Gods,andmine,* inwhichIhadnootherdesign than that of imitating them.
Soc. Isthisthething,Eutyphron,whichhasbrought metodaytothisBar; becausewhenIam toldthese Tales of the Gods I can't hear 'era without Pain > IsthistheCrimewithwhichIam goingtobecharg'd> If you who are so able in Matters of Religion a- gree with the People in this, and believe thesesto ries 'tis absolutely necessary that I should believe 'em too, who confess ingenuously that I know nothing of these Matters ; shall Ipretend to be wiser than m y Teachers, and make head against them ? Therefore IbegofyouinthenameofthatGodwho presides over Friendship, do not deceive me, do you believe allthesethings you fay?
Eut. I not only believe these, but others too that &>><<kufi | are more surprizing,of which the People are wholly ***'*" ignorant. S S b
Soc. You seriouslybelievethenthattherearegreatvertknown Quarrels, Animosities and Wars among the Gods ? <<>>/;to
You believeallthoseothersPassionsreignamong'em,thof'*** which are so surprizing, and are represented by Poets *%' mtiar
and Painters in their Poems and Pictures, which are expos'd to view in all parts of our Temples ; and f
are wrought with variousColours in that mysterious Tapistry, which is carried in procession to the Cita
del every fifth Year, during the 'Panathsnea? _, _,<<- must we receive all these things as so many great ^iaJ^ Truths, Eutyphron.
Eut. Not onlythese,Socrates^. butagreatmany others besides, as I told you just now, which Iwill
* TheimitationofthosefalseGoIscouldonly producevery il Actions, as the Poets themselves have acknowledged.
f This Tapistry was the Sail of MUtrvtfs Ship, on which the Principal Actions of this Goddess were describ'd in Needle-work} which after it had been expos'd in the Ship ar the beginning of the Feast, was carried in Procession. The Ship was rolPd along on firmGroundtotheTempleofCeresatEleufaf,fromwhenceit was brought back, and canted to the Citadel ; and theS. a. ue of theGoddess was atlastadorn'd with it.
T4 ex-
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BUtlffB^ONi or,
explaintoyouifyouplease^anduponmyword they'll make you wonder.
Soc. No, they will not make me wonder much, butyoumayexplain'emtomeanothertimewhen youaremore atleisure;Iprayendeavournowto
explain to m e w h a t I ask'd you,a little m o r e clearly ; foryouhaveriotyetfullyanswer'dmy Questioayou have not taught me what Holiness is. You have onb/toldmethatthat. isaholythingwhichyou
do in'accusing your Father of Murder
Eut. And1havetoldyoutheTruth,
Soc. Itmaybesojbutaretherenotagreatma ny other things which you call Holy > '? '
Eut. Without doubt there are.
Soc. I intreat you therefore to remember that whatIask'dyouwasnottoteachmeoneortwo holy'Things among a greatmany othersthat are so %oo; but to give me a clear and distinct Idea of the Nature of Holinels, and of that which causes allholyThingstobeholy. Foryoutoldmeyour self, that there is only one and the fame Character whichmakesallholyThingstobewhat theyarej as there is one that 'makes Wickedness to be always WickednessY don'tyourememberit?
' Eur, O ho, yes, I remember it. Soc. Thenteachme toknowwhatthisCharacter
is, thai Imay 'have italways before my Eyes, and may useitas the trueModel, and realOriginal, thatsoImay'beinaConditiontoaffirmof every thing which I see you or others do, that that which r e s e m b l e s , it is h o l y , a n d t h a t w h i c h d o e s n o t r e s e m
ble itiswicked.
'Eut. Ifthat'sit,youdesire,Socrates^\amready
tosatisfieyou. Soc. Trulythat'swhatIwouldhave* ASesimd 'Eut. IlaythenthatHolinessisthatwhichisa-
Df/somostf/greabletotheGods, andWickednessisthatwhich jAfif/f. -? }sdisagreableto'em. ? '' '
Soc. Verywell,Eutyphxon, you. haveatlastan
swerdmipreciselyaccordingtomyQuestion. But
I don't vet know whether you lpeak true : However ->? . *? ? . --. ? ? _, . ? -. surely.
? ? Os HOLINESS. 181
surelyyou will know how to convince me of the Truth of what you advance.
Eut. I'llansweryou.
Soc. Come then,letuslaydownwhat we fay plainly. AholyThing,oraholyMan,isaThing, oraMan thatisagreabletoGod-,awickedThing, orawickedMan, isaMan, orThingthatisdisa- g r e a b l e t o h i m ? , t h u s w h a t i s H o l y a n d w h a t i s W i c k
ed are directly opposite ; axe they not ? Eut. That'sbeyond contradiction.
Soc. I think this is very well lay'd down. Eut. Ithink so too, Socrates.
Soc. But have w e not also affirm'd that * the Gods have frequent Animosities and Contentions among themselves, and are often embroil'd and divided one against another ? Eut. Yes, without doubt.
Soc.
Therefore let us now examine what may be the Occasion of that difference of Sentiments that produces those Quarrels and thatEnmity among 'em. IfyouandIshoulddisputeaboutNumbers, toknow which was the greater, would this difference make us Enemies, and carry us to all manner of Excesses andViolences? Shouldwe notimmediatelysetour selves to reckon, that w e might presently be of the sameMind>
Eut. Tis very true, we should so.
Soc. And ifwe should dispute about thedifferent bigness of Bodies, should w e not presently go about
measuring 'em, and would not that ibon put an end, to our Dispute? ?
Eut. Itwould so.
Soc. AndifweshouldcontestaboutWeight,would not our Difference be soon determin'd by means ofa pair of Scales?
Eut. Nodoubtofit.
Soc. Well then, what isthere, about which, if we should come to dispute Without having a cer tain Rule, to which we might recur, we should be-
* SocratesrefutesthisDefinitionof Holiness, by shewing thac ^tcan'tsubsistwiththeirTheology. ? ? '? .
'"-*"*? ? '"'? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? come
? ? i8i
EUTrTHGLON; of,
come irreconcileable Enemies, and fall into an ex travagant Passion one against the other > Perhaps none of these things at present occurs to your Mind. I'll tell you some of 'em, and you shall judge whe ther I am inthe right. Isitnot what isJust and Un just, Comely and Indecent, Good and Evil? Arenot not these the things about which we every day dif fer, and not finding a sufficient Rule to make us ac cord, we fallinto thegreatestEnmity ? When Ifay WeIspeakofallMankindingeneral.
Eut. Thatindeedisthe,trueCauseofallourLaw- suites, and all our Wars.
Soc. Arid if it be true, that the Gods are at Vari a n c e a m o n g t h e m s e l v e s a b o u t a n y t h i n g , m u s t it n o t - necessarily be some one of these ?
Eut. Itmustneedsbeso.
Soc. * According toyou then,Excellent Eutypbron, the Gods aredivided about what isJustand Unjust, ComelyandIndecent-,GoodandEvil. Forifthey did notcontest about these things, they would have no occasion of wrangling, but would be always uni tedjwouldtheynot> Eut. Youfayveryright.
&v. And the things which each God takes to be Comely, Good and Just, are lov'd by him, and the contrary hated.
Eut. Most certainly.
Soc. Accordingtoyou thenoneandthefamething seems Just to some of them and Unjust to others, seeingWarsandSeditionsarestir'dupamong 'em bysuchDisputesasthese. Isitnotso>
Eut. 'Tis so without doubt.
Soc. Hence itfollows, that one and the fame thing is t h e o b j e c t b o t h o f t h e L o v e a n d H a t r e d o f t h e G o d s , and isatthefame time pleasingand displeasing to 'em.
Eut. So it(seems.
Soc. And consequently, according to you, what is Holy and Profane are the fame thing.
Eut. I grant, this consequence may be Just.
* Socriteshmi(am\y ridiculesthoseGoJs, who know not whac Justice and Jniutice, Vice and Venue are.
? S<? c.
? ? Of HOLINESS. x8}
Soc. Than you have not answer'd my Question, Incomparable Eutypbron ; for I did not ask you what it was that at the fame time was Holy and Profane, PleaiingandDispleasingtotheGods. SothatIfore- fee 'tis possible without a Miracle, that the Action you are about to day in prosecuting your Father to bringhimtoPunisliment,may pleaseJupiter,andat the lame time may displease Coelus and Saturn -, may be approv'd by Vulcan, and dilapprov'd by Ju no,andsooftherestoftheGodswhomaybeofdif ferent Sentiments.
Eut. But Socrates, Isuppose there'snodisputea- bout this among the Gods, nor does any one of 'em pretend, that he who has kill'd a Man unjustly should be suffer'd to go unpunish'd.
Soc. NeitheristhereanyMan thatpretendsto that : Did you ever fee any one that dafd put the matter in Question, whether he that had willfully murder'daMan, orcommittedanyotherActofIn
justice, ought to be punisti'd or not ?
Eut. W e every where hear and fee scarce any
thing else before the Tribunals but Persons w h o have committed Acts of Injustice, saying and doing what they can to avoid Punishment.
Soc But do thePersonsofwhom you speak, Eu typbron, confess that they have done those Acts ofs Injustice of which they are accus'd ; and after this Confession maintain that they ought not to be punisti'd?
Eut. They havenoMind toconfessso,Socrates.
Soc. Then they do not lay and do all they can ; for they dare neither maintain nor assert, that whentheirInjusticeismanifest, andsufficientlyat tested,theyoughtnottobechastiz'dforit. Isitnotso*
Eut. 'Tis very true.
Soc. Theydon'tputtheMatter inQuestion, whe therhethatisguiltyofInjusticeought tobepu- nish'd;No bodydoubtsofthat;butthataboutwhich they dispute is the Natute of Injustice,- to deter mineinwhat, how, andonwhatOccasionitiscom mitted.
Em.
? ? *84 EUTYTHWN; orj
Eut. That'scertain.
Soc. AndisitnotthefameinHeaven,ifitbe true, as you have asserted that the Gods are at Va rianceaboutwhatisJustandUnjust? Donotsome of'emaffirmthatothersofem areUnjust,anddon't
thelattermaintaintheContrary. Forthereisnot oneamongthemnomorethanamonguswhodares advance such a Notion as this, that he that commits Injustice ought not to be punifliM.
Eut. All you fay is true, Socrates^ at least in general.
Soc. Youmayfayinparticulartoo. For'tisabout particular Actions that both Men and Gods dispute everyday jifitbetruethattheGodsdisputeabout anything:Do notsomesaysuchanActionisJust, and othersthat'tisUnjust *
Eut. Yes Doubtless.
Soc. Comethen,mydearEutypbron^formypar ticular Instruction tell me what certain Proof you have that the Gods all disapprove the Death of your Farmer, who after he had so barbarously knock'd his fellow servant on the head, was laid in Irons, and so perish'd before your Father had receiv'd the answerwhichheexpectedfromAthens. Demon stratetome thatonthisoccasion'tisapiousandjust Action for a Son to accuse his Father of Murder, and to endeavour to bring him toPunishment for it} and see if you can fairly and evidently prove to me, that,the Action of such a Son ispleasing to the Gods. If you do this I shall never cease to admire and ce lebrate your Capacity as long as I live.
Eut. Thisissomewhatdifficultindeedjtoprove ittoyou. FormypartIcouldproveitasevident ly as ?
Soc. Iunderstandyou. Thatistofay,Youthink Ihaveadullerhead thananyofyourJudges-,for as to them, there's no difficulty in the Case, you'll make it appear to them that your Farmer was un justly kill'd, and that allthe Gods disapprove your Father's Action,
Eut. .
? ? Of HOLINESS. 285
Eut. I'llmakeitappearto'ematclearastheLight, provided they will but hear me.
Soc. Oh! Theywillnotfailtohearyou,*pro
videdyoumakeafineSpeechto'em. ButI'lltell
youwhat ReflectionI lustnow made, whileIwas
hearkningtowhat you laid; Isaid withinmy self;
suppose itwere possible for Eutyphron to persuade m e
that all the Gods are of the Mind that this Farmer
was unjustly kill'd ; should I be ever the wiser,
should I understand, better than I do, what is Holy
a n d w h a t P r o f a n e ? T h e D e a t h o f this F a n n e r is d i s
pleasing to the Gods, as he pretends, I'll grant it ;
but this is not a definition of what isHoly, and its contrary, seeingtheGodsaredivided? ,andthatwhich
isdjsagreabletosome ofthem isagreabletoothers:
Verywell,Ipassthat,Eutyphron:Iam willingto
suppose that all the Gods account your Father'sActi-
onunjust, andthattheyallabhorit:Ipraythen
let us correct our Definition a little, and fay, That
whichalltheGodscondemnisProfane, andthatwhich
all the Gods approve isHoly : and that which is ap proved by some o f em, ana disapproved by others, is
neither one nor t'other, or rather is both together. Shallwe standbythisDefinitionofwhatisHolyand what Profane ?
Eut. Whatshouldhinderus,Socrates>
S o c . F o r m y p a r t I ' l l n o t h i n d e r i t -, b u t d o y o u see your self if this suites your Opinion ; and if up onthisPrincipleyoucaninstructme betterinwhat you have been endeavouring to teach me.
Eut. And formy partI(hallmake no Difficulty of asserting, that that is Holy which all the Gods approve, andthatProfane, which they alldisapprove.
Soc. Examine thisDefinition to see if it be true, or shallwereceiveitwithoutanyCeremony? and
* Secritts reproaches the Athenians, that they lov'd to hear such as could talk finely, and did not much trouble their Heads about the Truth of Things: W e learn from the Sacred History that thiswastheCharacteroftheAthenians; theyspenttheirTimein hearing eitherNovelists or Orators.
shall
? ? . 86" EUTY<PH$LO 2\? ; or,
shall w e have that respect for our selves and others, as to give our Assent to all our Imaginations and
Fancies ; so that for a M a n to tell us a thing is so, s h a l l b e s u f f i c i e n t t o g a i n o u r B e l i e f ? , o r i s i t n e c e s
s a r y t o e x a m i n e w h a t i s s a i d t o u s . ? Eut. Withoutdoubtweshouldexamineit;and
Iamwellassur'dthatwhatwehavelaiddownisa good Position.
Soc. Thatweshallseepresently. Hearmealit tle. *IsthatwhichisHolybelov'doftheGods, because it is Holy, or isit Holy,because it is belov'd of'em>
Eut. Idon'twell understandwhat you fay, Socrates.
Soc. I'llendeavourtoexplainmyself. Don'twe lay, that a thing is carried, and that a thing carries? that a thing is seen, and that a thing fees ; that a thing ismov'd,and thata thing moves it? and thelike
to Infinity ? D o you conceive that they are different ? and do you understand in what they differ?
Eat. I think I do.
Soc. Is not the thing belov'd different from that which loves ?
Eut. A pretty Question indeed!
Soc. Tell me then isthe thing,which iscarried,car- ried because one carriesit;or for some other Reason?
Eut. Because one carries it ^ without doubt.
Soc. And the thing mov'd ismov'd because one m o v e s i t ? , a n d t h e t h i n g s e e n b e c a u s e o n e s e e s i t ?
Eut. Most certainly,
* ThisThoughtistoohighforEutypbron,whoconceivingHo linessasathingdistinctfromGod, couldnottellhow tocompre hend thatwhichisHolyisatthefametimelov'dofGod,becauseic isHoly;andHolybecauselov'dofGod:ForHolinesscomesfrom God, Sanftitasprimtivi ;and theHolinessofMen istheeffectofthe DivineCommunion, whichSocratesunderstood,andofwhichhe elsewherespeaks. SothatSocratesherespeakswithreferenceto thegrossmanner ofconceiving the thingsofReligionwhich was tobefoundinignorantMen;whojudg'dofthisasofallother thingsinwhichcheRelativesareverydifferent, asthatwhichis lov'd is different from that which loves, that which is moved tt different from that which moves ic, &e,
Soc.
? ? Of HOLINESS. 187
Soc. Then it is not true that one fees a thing be cause it is seen, but on the contrary 'tis seen because oneseesit. "Tisnottruethatonemovesathingbe cause 'tis mov'd, but it is mov'd because one moves it : N o r is it true, that one carries a thing because 'tis carried, but 'tis carried because one carries it:
? Doyouunderstandmenow? Isthisplainenough? My meaningis,thatonedoesnotdoathingbecause ?
it is done, but that it is done because one does it ? that a Reing which suffers does not suffer because itispassiye;butispassivebecauseitsuffers. Isnot this true ?
Eut. Whodoubtsit?
Soc. Is not that which is lov'd something that is done, or that suffers ?
Eut. Certainly.
Soc- Then 'tiswiththatwhich islov'das'tiswith a l l o t h e r t h i n g s ? , ' t i s n o t b e c a u s e i t i s l o v ' d t h a t o n e
lovesit,butonethecontrary'tisbecauseone loves it that it is lov'd.
Eut. That's as clear as the Light.
Soc. WhatshallwesaythenofthatwhichisHo ly,mydearEutypbron>shallwenotsay,itisbe- lov'd of the Gods, as you have asserted ?
Eut. Yes certainly.
Soc. Butisitbelov'dbecauseitisHoly, orisit. for some other Reason ? .