No More Learning

Any useful action to be taken, or does yr/ generation merely ignore it? Obviously almost any religion can be taken up by an artist who will select only its better part and ignore its evils.
Subject not simple. Am wondering whether any good can be done by starting an article in Italian: "Christianity will come out of this war like a plucked chicken. . . . " following or preceding the remark with allusions to collaboration of anglican bishops and the papal gang with usury and jews.
I suppose Y. Yashiro is bloke whose book on Botticelli 1 saw at Yeats' ten years or more ago?
What I dont make out is whether one cd/ talk with Mushakoji/ whether he is SET on Beethoven, or whether that list of three names is due to his unfamiliarity with what I think is better. I mean does he like 'em for their real merits/ or because they are different from Jap work/ or what?
Am all for boom in Confucius/ but hear there is some very poor neo- Confucianism on the Chinese market. Weak generalities/
Mencius is the most modern author. I mean still, today, the most modern/ 1940 whereas Aragon is 1920. Or was.
Put it: do japs of my age live where my elders were when they (jap con- temporaries) were in Europe?
Neue Sachlichkeit sounds O. K. ; naturally Italy hasn't yet heard of it.
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Frobenius was contemporary. Dare say I have touched on these points before. Shd/ like pointers re/ jap Times/ whether I am being too UNchris- tian for 'em/ or whether they are getting bored (nowt printed for some time) or whether my economics are too orthodox. Colliers wouldn't like 'em. But Senator Frazier has caught the boat/ which Volpi has not.
Another line of enquiry: do you, Ito, Mushakoji and Kita agree on any- thing? And if so what?
Or do you set round and never meet (as in England different sects)
Sometimes damn foreigner can introduce proper people across clique frontiers. As activist, shd/ like to know if useful collaboration possible between me and any of 'em/ either to get full sound film of Noh/ or more lively Confucian comprehension.
Anyhow, Happy New Year/ damn Churchill and lets hope that Frankie Roosevelt will lie down now he has a third term to play with.
yours
Ezra Pound
(Why am I not translated? Any one outside VOU club ever read a hook by E. P. ? )
{Don't send compliments--I am interested in knowing why. )
105: Ezra Pound to Katue Kitasono
TLS-3 Anno XIX, Via Marsala 12-5, Rapallo, with Gaudier-Brzeska profile head. 31 December 1940
Dear Kit Kat
FOR VOU
Lahiri's book gives the impression, possibly a wrong one, that Y. Noguchi & Mushakoji may be living in what was in England and Amer- ica the era of 1890 or even of 1888.
I wish I could convince VOU club that economics, and in particular the preoccupation with the nature of money and the effects of usury are not a bee in my sole and personal bonnet.
The surrealists. Max Ernst and the lot of 'em (Crevel being their best writer, and not quite of them) were all represented in The Little Re- view in 1923.
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A surrealist treatment of money would be contemporary, today, 1940 or still better anno xix del Era fascista.
This awareness is not a mere idiosyncrasy of mine. The most vital poets in the West, Bunting, cummings, Angold are all awake to it. So is W. C. Williams, so is Ron Duncan, editor of Townsman, who pre- ceded Laughlin in printing VOU poems, so is and has been T. S. Eliot from the day he wrote Bleistein: "The jew is underneath the lot. "
It is proper that up to the age of crucifixion (32) the poet be lyric. After that he withers, I think, if he does not feel some curiosity as to the locus of his own perceptions and passions. By locus I mean their movement in relation to the humanity about him.
E. P.
DearK/
The preceding page is to print if VOU has space. This page is private, repeating possibly points from yesterday's letter.
You would help me considerably if you can find time to say why my books are not translated into Japanese. VOU has done all it can, and is doing all it can, as a magazine. But couldn't Japan print a series of books in English and/or other languages at a reasonable price? A Jap publisher could even sell copies in Europe (Continent where Eng. & Am. public haven't contracted by rights. ) if he wd. go to it and print the good books that that bloody swine Tauchnitz and Albatross (united) (a jew named Reese, amusing card but evil. ) does not and never will print.
Naturally I wd/ be only too glad to tell the publisher what is, and has for the past 50 years been worth reading.
Half dozen of dozen H. James/ W. H. Hudson, a little of F. M. Ford. My anthology Profile, my Kuich. More Thos. Hardy. Possibly some Frobenius/ Crevel's Pieds dans le Plat.
Is there in Japan an available edtn/ of Madame Bovary/ Educ Sen- timentaJe, or of Corbiere, Laforgue, Rimbaud? Or of Gautier's Emaux et Camees?
Or my Jefferson and/or Mussolini (as simple chronicle)?
All could be done for two yen a vol/ with percentage of 10% to authors. I mean print 'em in original language. J. T. readers numerous enough to cover the cost of printing. You might indeed be a pubr/ instead of a bibJiotecario/ No, probably too risky. A fixed job is the basis of sanity.
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But you must know a printer. I wd. cheerfully take a few shares in any company you told me was properly organized. Not as capitalist, but just toshowbyafewbucks,thatI thoughtthethinggoodbusiness.
Hell! Tauchnitz has made money enough.
Eliot's poems/ etc. It wd. be useful to you and VOU to have all the best foreign books available in Tokyo at a low price. Paper covers for prefer- ence.
/ by the way/ when did Bernie Pshaw ever see a Noh play and why did he think he knew what it was driving at?
Wonder if Kita/ no he cant have/ if that was first photo/ anyhow, wonder who did the damn good performance that I saw from film in Washing- ton?
Kita OUGHT to be smoked up to get all his performances onto a permanent record of that sort, both the movements and the sound.
What the hell he is doing in a Louis XIV wig beats me, unless it is the blinkin old lion, Ki lin or wott t' hell?
Henya hair is red and straight/ 1 dare say the "coils" iz the flossie dawg.
ever yrs E. Pound
106: Ezra Pound to Katue Kitasono
TLS-1 Anno XIX, Via Marsala 12-5, Rapallo, with Gaudier-Brzeska profile head. 2 February 1941
Dear Kit Kat
The metamorphosis of the Jap Times is from this distance an interesting study and very sad.
I take it the departure of Mr. Iwado coincides. I note that the village idiot has a column on Lahiri's book etc.
I should very much like to hear the whole story if you have patience to tell it. I had already indulged in conjectures during the month pre- vious to disappearance of Mr. Iwado and the Cub Reporter. I spose boys will be boys and youth youth. Anyhow I wd/ like it if not as history at least as romance and the development of the short story in the far east. Maupassant, to Caldwell or As you like it.
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In fact I wondered whether my Confucianism, or my economics, or my nationality /etc/etc/
107: Ezra Pound to Katue Kitasono TL-1 [n. p. ]. 16 February 1941
Kat
I lived today a hokku, or at least it seems more suited to a Japanese context than to my heavier hand, so I offer it to the VOU club.
With the war there are this year no concerts by the Amici del Tigullio, the foreign subscribers are gone, but that wd/ not prevent us, there is no Gerhart Miinch, no pianist/ no public or perhaps there might be a public, but at any rate, I am the public.
Stage, a room on the hill among the olive trees
the violinist playing the air of Mozart's 16th violin sonata/
then a finch or some bird that escapes my ornithology tried to counterpoint. (aJJ through in key)
I suppose the subject is: War time. yours
(Storm, high seas. )
I think you have post cards of the cliffs here, and this is the season when the olives fall, partly with wind or rain/ hail for a few minutes today/
The impatient peasant rattles a bamboo in the olive twigs to get the olives down, but this is now against the regulations as they, the olives, are supposed to give more oil if they fall by themselves.
benedictions, yours
Ezra Pound
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108: Ezra Pound to Katue Kitasono
TLS-2 Anno XIX, Via Marsala 12-5, Rapallo, with Gaudier-Brzeska profile head. 12 March 1941
Dear Kit Kat
Have I asked, and have you answered: whether you have olive trees in Japan? and whether the peasants shake off the olives with bamboo poles?
The Janequin "Canzone degJi Uccelli," Miinch's version for violin, was printed in Townsman. I think I mention it also in ABC of Reading. ]. born end of Quattrocento/ about 1475, if I remember rightly. Otherwise these lines from a new Canto/ or rather for a new Canto, can go to the VOU club without explanation.
///Lines to go into Canto 72 or somewhere///
Now sun rises in Ram sign.
With clack of bamboos against olive stock
We have heard the birds praising Janequin And the black cat's tail is exalted.
The sexton of San Pantaleo plays "e mobile" on his carillon "un'eduo. . . cheladonnaemobile"
In the hill tower (videt et urbes) And a black head under white cherry boughs
Precedes us down the salita.
{Italian for stone path in hills. )
The water-bug's mittens show on the bright rock below him. (If I were 30 years younger I wd/ call 'em his boxing gJoves. )
I wonder if it is clear that I mean the shadow of the "mittens" and can you ideograph it . . . very like petals of blossom.
All of which shows that I am not wholly absorbed in saving Europe by economics.
Though if yr/ minister is coming to Berlin/ Rome, the Jap Times ought to go on with my articles, unless the seceding editor has taken 'em with him to enliven some other publication.
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I get more and more orthodox every day by not moving from positions taken ten or 20 years ago.
Have just finished clean copy of my translation of Por's Politica Economico-Sociale in Italia. / magnificently constructed as a book/ but HELL as sentence construction/ or rather hell if you don't knock every sentence to bits and remake it in English. My temper for past 3 weeks unfit for a self-respecting leopard cage in any zoo.
Do try to get some news from cummings/ etc.
benedictions/ Ezra Pound
Oh yes, I have spoken (to U. S. A. 8r England) on the radio several times from Rome. But I suppose the transmissions short wave for Tokio are only in Japanese? ?
109: Ezra Pound to Katue Kitasono
TLS-2 Anno XIX, Via Marsala 12-5, Rapallo, with Gaudier-Brzeska profile head. 25 March 1941
Dear Kit Kat
Had no sooner writ you (my Jast) than came "Diogenes" with yr/ mention of "olive tree"/ but no proof it was Jap olive.
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I am still interested in Jap Times/ as last artel/ of mine to appear was my whoop of joy for Matsuoka's taking on his present job. I shd/ have thought paper cd/ stand that//
Note for you and VOU club/ that I sent yesterday to United Press a state- ment of plan for Pacific Peace//
We shd/ give you Guam but insist on getting Kumasaka and Kagekiyo in return.
i. e. INSIST on having 300 Noh plays done properly and recorded on sound film so as to be available to educate such amerikn stewdents as are capable of being cultur'd.
(parenthesis Henry Adams to Geo Santayana 45 years ago: "Ahhh, so you wish to teach at Harvard. Ah, it can not be done! ")
Of course I dont know that the U. P. will print the proposal. If they don't and if I am asked to broadcast again, I shall probably put it on the air.
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Last /. T. Weekly mentioned Hoshu Saito and Gado Ono. I don't know whether there is record in P'enoilosa's notes of name of "master of ideo- graph" who did the ideograms that I now have. I think I merely heard thenamefromMrs. Fenollosa. After25yearsoneisabitvague. I think it was Saito. I wonder if there is any way of discovering whether Saito knew Fenollosa, or of identifying the "rays" ideogram (by its style) whichI havereproducedatstartofmy"Cantos52/71. "
I have merely given it as "from the Fenollosa collection"
I don't know whether you have the Nott edtn/ of the Written Character. All the ideograms there are, I believe, by the same hand/ at any rate all in same ink on same size sheets of rice paper; very black as to ink, very suave as to paper surface, almost a glaze.
// Mediterranean March
Black cat on the quince branch mousing blossoms
Message to the ex-governor who writes hokku/
For bigger and better glaring (in the Tokyo zoo) Let out the tiger
And put in the sassoon.
110: Ezra Pound to Katue Kitasono
TLS-1 Anno XIX, Via Marsala 12-5, Rapallo, with Gaudier-Brzeska profile head. 12 April 1941
Dear Kit Kat
"BuonaPasqua,"Thanksfor"highbrow,"I canmakeout what the subject matter is, I don't suppose I shall ever be able to read it without a crib.
Wouldn't Laughlin publish a translation either of the book as it stands, or of a selection of yr/ essays?
I have asked so many questions in my last six or ten letters that I don't
//
Ezra Pound
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know what more to ask. Fine season for airmen and suspended one for the arts in Europe. Meaning, no news save what you get from the news agencies.
cordially yours Ez. Pound
In fact the only "literary gossip" is from an old copy of Time I think it was, Mr. Eliot converting the Archbish. of York to a mixture of Christian- ity, communism and economics. In about that order.
Ill: Katue Kitasono to Ezra Pound
TLS-1 vou CLUB 1649 1-tiome-nisi magome-mati, omoriku, tokio. 28 May 1941
Dear Mr. Ezra Pound,
Thank you for your letter of April 12. 1 am very sorry I haven't written answers for your letters so long that your questions have run out.
As you know VOU is changed its name to singijyutu.
My latest book of poems, Hard Egg, has reached you by now, hasn't it? I translated your Hokku "Mediterranean March" and wrote it in my poor hand. You will know what a great master Gado Ono is, as compared with mine.
As well as you we get very little news in Tokio.
Charles Ford has published his book of poems, Overturned Lake, is the only latest news?
How is Duncan?
Townsman reaches me no longer. YouroriginalplanforPacificpeacewasquicklyprintedin/. T. Mayit
be realized like a miracle of 20th century!
Do you receive ]. T. regularly?
It's a matter of great regret that your works have not been translated in
Japanese, and still it will need some more years for your being translated. You are difficult to most of the Japanese readers, and most of literary men in Japan are rather sentimental as they may be the same in Europe.
But you must be known in Japan more widely.
I'll do my best for it as I have been doing.
I am not sure whether there are olive trees in Japan, or not.
Yours ever, Katue Kitasono
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112: Katue Kitasono to Ezra Pound
TPC-1 1649 1-tiome nisi, Magome, Ota. Tokio. 22 [April 1947? ]
Dear Ezra,
I have been very anxious about your illness which I learned in News- week and Time. I've been unable, however, to know your address, until I received a letter from James Laughlin.
How are your family? Where are they? I hope you will regain your health very soon.
I revived my magazine VOU last December. Japan is in severe inflation.
? 113: Dorothy Pound to Katue Kitasono
TL-1 3211 10th Place, S. E. , Washington, D. C. 4 May 1947
Dear Mr. Kitasono:
Ezra's wife writing. I have just been with E. P. He asks me to write you the following notes, and send on the Confucius, Studio IntegraJe.
He wants an estimate of what it would cost to print the Confucian Anthology ("as you sent me text, not Mao's comment").
Characters about as large as enclosed, not more than 6 columns of 8 [characters] per page. Or 7 if needed to complete a strophe, with 7th column for title. Each poem of the 305 to start on new page, no strophe to be
broken--if 2 strophes (say 34 characters) won't go entirely on page, then start new page. Verse form to be indicated clearly, by disposition of char- acters.
Cost for 2000 copies, leaving bottom V2 page blank for translation & notes. Characters of same verse a little closer. Then break between verses as here between the characters. 8 chs. to fill height here taken by seven.
Sorry this isn't a copy of S. Int. on the better paper. He wants sample of font of type & of paper.
. . . so the shape of the strophe can be seen by american eye.
. . . if verse is 6 characters, the next verse starts on new column.
. . . no verse to be broken at column end, cf. my Cavalcanti.
. . . page size as Integraie, or a little larger. Pages to run occidental fashion.
Ever Yours, Katue Kitasono
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Our family news--Mary is in Tyrol, married, has just had a son.
I have been over here nearly a year. Answer to me perhaps easier. Though his in-going mail is not censored, all out-going mail goes through hands of psychiatrists.
So glad to hear VOU has begun again.
Please write to E. P. again. A few words from outside world gives him so much pleasure, even if only a postcard.
Greetings,
believe me
yours most sincerely Dorothy Pound
114: Katue Kitasono to Ezra Pound
TPC-l [1649 1-CHOME NisHi, Magomemachi, Otaku], Tokyo. 15 May 1947
My dear Ezra,
Very much pleased with your letter of March 15th, and glad to know you have recovered so much.
Frontiers of poetry do not lose their hope as long as you are well.
The serious inflation in this country makes it more and more difficult to bring out books.
I earnestly desire such a delightful condition will come back here as soon as possible that the very interesting plan of you about ^ ^ [Lao, Mao] can be carried out as you wish.
Je mange, done je suis.
115: Katue Kitasono to Dorothy Pound
TLS-2 VOU CLUB 1649 1-tiome-nisi, Magome-mati, Ota, Tokio. 24 September 1947
Dear Mrs. Pound,
Very sorry I have delayed so long to send you an answer for your letter.
Ever yours, Katue Kitasono
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In Japan, price of paper is very high and printing ink is not good. So I wrote to a Chinese friend of mine inquiring if Mr. E. P. 's Confucian Anthol- ogy could be printed in Shanghai. I have not yet got his answer, and so any way I tell you what it will cost to print it in Tokio.
Supposing 302 pages a copy, 2000 copies to be printed, it will cost Y2, 000. 000 for paper, and Y640. 000 for printing. (Rate of conversion: Y200 for a dollar). This is an estimate on Sept. 20 at the present. The price will go up much more after two weeks or so in this inflation speed. Moreover it is difficult or almost impossible to send you sample of type and paper because ofrestrictionsofcommunicationbyG. H. Q. I wasnotallowedtoreceivethe copy of Studio Integraie that you wrote enclosed.
There is no means to receive the manuscripts, to send you back the copies, and to get money even if you send.
I think we must wait at least until peace treaty is concluded. Congratulate Mary's marriage and the new birth of her son.
The other day Mr. D. D. Paige of Wellesley College wrote to me of
publishing E. P. letters. I could meet his desire miraculously. A miracle would take place for the Confucian Anthology! Please tell Mr. E. P. not to be disappointed.
VOU is going to change its title for Cendre. You think it is just becoming to a poetry magazine in the defeated country, don't you?
Ever yours, Katue Kitasono
116: Katue Kitasono to Ezra Pound
TLS-2 VOU CLUB 1649 1-tiome-nisi, Magome-mati, Omoriku, Tokio. 18 December 1947
Dear Ezra,
Christmas is close by, and I hope you are very much improved in health.
The magazine VOU is to be put out in January, 1948 under the new name Cendre.
The VOU Club members have changed from 1940, and almost all the most excellent poets in Japan have joined the VOU.
The young VOU poets in the twenties mostly read T. S. Eliot, T. E. Hulme, F. Kafka and P. Valery. By touching such authors, they seem to try
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to reform themselves distorted in the military life.
About three weeks ago Ronald Duncan sent me his poems and his new
book, The Rape of Lucretia. He wrote he was translating in English Coc- teau's La Belle et le Bete. This picture will be released in Tokio, next January, and I am going to make a beautiful pamphlet about 8 pages for this film.
The translation of Cocteau's poem "Crucifixion" about 375 lines appeared in literary magazine Europe and 1 was little impressed with it. Recently I read Paul Putnam's Paris Was Our Mistress. I think the fault
of this book is that Putnam believes he knows artist's temperament.
A new experiment now I am trying is to bring a forceful and intellectual thrill into poetry. Such a poem like "The Raven" smelling of death and
gunpowder.
D. D. Paige in Wellesley College asked me to send him E. P. letters
which he is going to publish next year, and I sent them to him.
He said in his letter that the Pisan Cantos are among your finest work.
Much to my regret I can't get and read them.
117: Katue Kitasono to Ezra Pound TPC-1 [n. p. ] [January, 1948? }
DEAR E. POUND--
Ever Yours, Katue Kitasono
I send you a copy of the Cendre which is the rebirth of the VOU.
I hope a charming duck will be born out of these ashes.
I shall be so much pleased, if you will write me your impression about
the Cendre.
Ever yours, Kit Kat
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118: Katue Kitasono to Dorothy Pound
TLS-1 vou CLUB 1649 1-tiome-nisi Magome-mati, Ota, Tokio. 12 August 1948
Mrs. Dorothy POUND,
I thank you very much for your letter of June 30th and the extract from
Times-Herald.
I'm so glad you read my poem in the Four Pages.
The other day I received "Pisan Cantos," u'hich maybe Mr. D. D. Paige
arranged for sending to me. I am going to introduce Pisan Cantos in the Cendre no. 5.
Sokolsky's opinion w^as very meaningful for me.
The Japanese is a great nation, or an uncanny robot. She is not great, even when considered in the most favourable light, then. . . .
The only way to save the Japanese in the present is anger. A man who has nothing to be angry about is no better than a Jelly-fish, pisan cantos moves me with its great anger. Anger is just live God, live love. Yesterday, a small lovely book of poems arrived at me from Marcos Fingerit in la Plata.
Please give my best regards to E. P.
Ever yours, Katue Kitasono
119: Katue Kitasono to Ezra Pound
TLS-1 vou CLUB, 1649 1-Tiome-nisi, Magome-mati, Omoriku, Tokio. 28 September 1948
Dear Ezra Pound,
Much pleased to get your air mail of Sept. 19. I bought and read Kumasaka (recently published), which I send you under separate cover.
Did Cendre no. 4 reach you? Kenneth Rexroth, the Californian poet, sent me his translations in English of a hundred Manyo and Kokin VVakas.
They are done pretty well, I think.
Tokio is now in the depth of Autumn and crickets are singing away.
Ever yours, Kitasono Katue
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120: Katue Kitasono to Dorothy Pound
TLS-l vou CLUB 1649 1-nisi, Magome, Ota, Tokio. 15 December 1948
Mme. Pound,
I am so sorry I have delayed so long in answering to you about Mao Shih.