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I believe I (could) have done a better article on Ito than the J. T. inter- viewer. Did you meet him? The paper is dated October, and says he was to return to America in Jan. so this is too late to serve as introduction, but if he is still in Tokio, give him my remembrances. I looked for him in N. York, but he was then in S. Francisco.
Mr. Masaichi Tani writes very good english, but he has missed a chance. His girls will have to be patriotic and "use Japan Knees" whatever for- eign clothes they obtain.
if you do meet Miscio ask him about "Ainley's face behind that mask," or his borrowing the old lady's cat.
As to the photo in the ]. T. I can't believe even Hollywood and facial massage has kept him 18. Not 25 years later.
Do you know whether the J. T. is being sent me? It doesn't get here. yours E. P.
(Did you see the Hawk's Well--is it any use in Japanese? )
89: Katue Kitasono to Ezra Pound
TLS-4 vou CLUB 1649 1-tiome-nisi magome-mati, omoriku, tokio. 15 March 1940
Dear Ezra Pound,
Excuse me for my long silence.
I thank you very much for your kindly letters and the copy for J. T. which has been just printed in the paper.
First of all I wish very much to have Meridiano di Roma, because I have
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a friend who reads Italian and will read Meridiano di Roma for me.
I often passed by Mitio Ito in the theatres or musical halls, but not talked to him. His hair is turning grey already, 1 haven't seen his dance so long. We, the VOU group, watch a young Miharu Tiba who is only unique dancer with a sense in Japan except Mitio Ito. I think Mitio Ito has not yet gone to
America, and if not I will write a letter to him.
The dessins in my book of poems Violet of Fire are drawn by Seiji Togo.
Really this painter is a decadent, a regrettable defect for him for which I must always blame him.
Recently Mr. Moori resigned his post, and Mr. Tamotu Iwado has become the new chief editor. He is, too, a good journalist as Mr. Moori.
J. T. is willing to designate you for an Italian correspondent.
If the enclosed certificate will be of any use to you, then banzai. J. T. will not restrict you in any way, but they will be glad to have your cultural news and sometimes political and economical news, if possible. Of course they
will pay you for them.
I send you several poems translated from Violet of Fire, (p. 17-26)
almost literal. At any rate, I hope these short lyrics will not take up much of your precious time.
The VOU Club plans to publish an English anthology. Will you please permit us to print your introductory note for VOU Club in the first number of Townsman. If you could write a poem or something for this anthology, we should be enraptured. Except the works of VOU, poems and essays of Duncan, Laughlin, Ford and other poets who have appeared in VOU, will be contained. The book will be about 150 pages and to be out till August.
Now and then Mary pleases me with her merry letters. She gave me a photo of her portrait painted by Mrs Frost.
I pray to Allah for your health and the meandering cantos.
Appendix:
ever yours. Katue Kitasono
heated monocle
1
Rise from a stone
Walk to hopelessness A red breast sings Offended alone
The pipe's clogged Forget even the name
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2
Passing through a village of lilies
Near the down
Read a lonesome letter
Look at nothing but a shell and button Hate severely tears and the sea
3
Eat green cakes
Go into the garden to laugh
But the parrot has a dirty tongue The cactus is, too, filthy Leaning sad against an oak-tree For a long time
Listen to the poor piano
4
In pain day after day
The wind blows hard
Drink some milk and then seated The watch's stopped
Trifling is the death of Pompey
5
With a broken beer bottle under my arm On the rock by the seaside
To hear a horse
My hat's already broken
Pitiful forlorn
Ah
Sextus Pompeius
Your death is foolish
Said I
And yet
Your death is foolish again
6
Roaming on the path of thorns
Tread on the thorns
Oh, God may cry!
Stones are now faded
The absolute
Or genuine eyes are sad
Irritating is the warbling of a nightingale
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Going along a small hill
Slightly slip
Death is too tardy
Wet with grief
The buttons are off
The love of Cid is even a boredom
8
Oh, friend!
But there's no friend
Solitude is stained
Going alone to a village where nightingales warble Look at the growing potatoes
Tears trickling down
Feeling sick at the vulgar growth of fig trees
9
On the bank studded with marigolds A flock of ducks is dazzling
On the day of fate
Lying in despair
Without glancing at the lumbers Cries of wagtails are so noisy
10
With a black cap on
Buy the lilies
And pass through the wood
The way of summer noon is endless
The despair is so lasting
Lying in the village where tomatoes are bright Gnawing a green cucumber
Shed tears at a peasant's love.
--Katue Kitasono
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90: Ezra Pound to Katue Kitasono
TLS-1 Anno XVIII, Via Marsala 12-5, Rapallo, with Gaudier-Brzeska profile head. 22 April 1940
Dear Kit Kat
Thank you (very much) for the translations of the poems. Have you sent them to Duncan, or wd/ you like me to do so?
Thanks for the letter from the Japan Times. However, no copies of the paper have come since the Dec. 10th lot.
I am not sure whether they want me to send only the long articles, or occasional briefer notes. Of course no use sending news that wd. be tele- graphed, and that they obviously get from a news agency.
I hopeyoufindMiscioIto.
Cantos 52/71 should have reached you. Of course if Mr. Iwado sends on the paper regularly I can probably fit my articles to it. I mean I can get much better Idea of whom I am writing for, and what has already been said.
I hope to see the editor of the Meridiano this week, and will again ask him to send it to you.
ever yours E. Pound
91: Ezra Pound to Katue Kitasono
TLS-2 Anno XVIII, Via Marsala 12-5, Rapallo, with Gaudier-Brzeska profile head and quotation "Liberty is not a right but a duty. " m. 10 July 1940
Dear Kit Kat
Enclosed (copy of letter to Mr. Iwado) explains itself. Thanks for the connection. I suggest that you reproduce (in VOU) the frontispage of my TEXT BOOK and translate its contents. It is the start of the economic history of the U. S. The pamphlet I am sending Mr. Iwado is the next dose/ and Por has explained the matter more fully. It is probably not your "pigeon" but still.
Has Meridiano begun to reach you? The J. T. is all the printed matter in English that now arrives here. Thanks for VOU. Last Meridiano con-
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tained some quotations from (Cantos) 52/71. Another point: MasoJiver has been doing some bihngual publishing in Spain. "Poesia en la Mono. " I dont know whether the series is going on, but you might send him a copy of VOU.
Juan Ramon Masoliver, Hotel Boston, via Lombardia Roma, Italy.
He has started the series with a fine translation of Dante (select pages). I suppose french wd/ be best medium of communication {with him). He is a cousin of Dali's.
I had about 44 other topics to write you.
I forget whether you are in touch with e. e. cummings. 4 Patchin Place. New York.
He is a better bet than C. H. Ford, though not a voluminous correspon- dent. In fact he is the best poet in America (long and ancient as is my friendship with old Bill Bull Williams . . . can't grade poems in accord- ance with personal relations with authors, but (on the other hand,) my relations suffer like hell when a man's work declines. )
Looking over the bound vols, of Little Review; the amount of work done since 1924 seems to boil down chiefly to what cummings has done, plus what Eliot has gone on doing. ("Agon" is later. )
I wonder if a file of The Little Review exists in Japan? Costs like the de- vil now. 1917/ to 19 and then quarterly issues at odd seasons till 1924. Joyce, Lewis, Eliot and the undersigned. Last issue Max Ernst and 1 think all the known surrealists. Crevel etc.
Have you had Crevel's "Pieds dans Je Plat"? You probably have re- viewed it in VOU, but my ideogramic knowledge moves very slowly and I can't read the magazine yet. I occasionally make out what some article is talking about. Am convinced VOU is livelier than anything here ex- cept Duncan's quarterly.
ever yours E. Pound
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92: Ezra Pound to Katue Kitasono
TLS-2 Anno XVIII, Via Marsala 12-5, Rapallo, with Gaudier-Brzeska profile head. 17 July 1940
Dear Kit Kat
The radio this a. m. announced "fusion of eastern and west- ern cultures" as part of yr/ new govt, program. I dare say I have given this as much thought as anyone. You already have a few notes of mine: The important thing is to keep the best of both cultures and not clutter.
There is a whole series of my books, starting with Spirit of Ro- mance (my first attempt in 1910) down to KULCH, aiming at telling the true story of occidental writing. Plus a few fumbles toward yours. Fenol- losa's papers etc/
I don't know whether you can persuade your colleagues to save their own time by starting from where I have got to.
The moment is important, for if you start right it will save a lot of bother. I assure you that there is a connection between the state of mind that makes good art (whether classic or romantic) and the state of mind that makes clean economics.
I dare say both start with the Ta Hio (or however you spell it)
and the definition of words (or forms).
(how does one get that Ming ideogram properly drawn? ) j" /^v
Not only for KuJturmorphoiogie, but for history, do get yr/ Kokusai Bunka Shinkokai to start with Brooks Adams' synthesis. Law of Civiliza- tion and Decay, The New Empire, and include the economists whom I have listed in my Text Book, also get (them to get a) copy of Butchart's Money (collection of opinions of last three centuries) mostly in English.
And for relations whether cultural or whatever, commercial, economic try to get the essential facts of U. S. history, not the pack of evasions taught in American Universities.
I will probably try to list the essential facts of U. S. history for the Jap. Times; may send it to you to read first.
If Japan is going "fascist," might save time to start where fascism now is, no need to go though experimental phases. Danger in U. S. is a sham fascism with none of the basic merits/ German Bauern/dhig concept; very valuable, (ancient) Roman empire flopped from failure to defend the purchasing power of agricultural labour.
If these subjects bore you, put me in touch with your grand-
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father, and stick to plastic values and verbal nuances. The nuance as definition. Nothing to despise in nuance.
Have already said in J. T. that the ^ -j~
intensifies racial characteristics the more he knov^s of these of other
the merrier the contacts betv^een antipodally different individuals.
If my god damned compatriots cant or wont print decent American his- tory, that is no reason why Tokio shouldn't.
yours ever E. Pound
Notes/ Is the term jap disliked? 1 mean do Japs prefer to be called Japanese? I personally prefer the monosyllable and consider it honorific.
re/ clutter. Young Laughlin thought I exaggerated when I talked of the ROT included in literary curricula, then he had to prepare for his Harvard exams in Italian literature, and was utterly amazed (having read FJaubert and a few good modern authors) that such twaddle as the course con- tained COULD be offered to any student.
93: Katue Kitasono to Ezra Pound
TLS-l vou CLUB 1649 1-tiome-nisi magome-matl omoriku, tokio. 22 August 1940
My dear Ezra Pound,
I am very much pleased to get your letters of July 10 and July 17.
I am glad to print the translation of your Text Book in the next issue of VOU which is going to be out in September. I don't get any copy of Meridiano.
I am sending a copy of VOU each to Mr. Juan Ramon Masoliver and to Mr. E. E. Cummings. I have often tried to translate Cummings' poems, but never succeeded.
We Japanese don't like to be called Jap, because Jap has been used more often with contempt than with friendliness. There are so many examples like this in the world, I think.
On the 7th, August I sent you the sum of Y97. 80 by Lira in the payment for your three letters for J. T. I hope you will find the enclosed receipts.
races. _.
^ The more ^ J
Cantos 52/71 has surely reached me. I wish I could translate them in
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Japanese. It is a very difficult task and yet I do never give up the hope. How is Miss Mary? I haven't written her so long.
I will soon send her beautiful Japanese picture books. Hoping you are doing very well over the turquoise seas.
ever yours, Katue Kitasono
94: Ezra Pound to Katue Kitasono
TLS-3 Anno XVIII, Via Marsala 12-5, Rapallo, with Gaudier-Brzeska profile head. 25 August 1940
Dear Kit Kat
Thanks very much for copy Jap Times 21 July/ wish I had had it in Rome last week. I visited yr/ cultural relations bureau, but found it hard to convince 'em I wrote for a real daily paper. (The weekly supplement looks artistic not journalistic. )
Anyhow they said all you young poets were incomprehensible. I told 'em VOU was the liveliest magazine in existence. They finally thought that maybe they had heard of you. (But "couldn't understand one single word. ") After half an hour one of 'em vaguely thought I must be some- one he had heard of; Fenollosa meant nothing to 'em. (They) thought I ought to get wise to modern Japan and not bother with (or stick to) Noh.
W^ell, they gave me a damn good cup of coffee. So I kidded 'em about disappearance of tea ceremony.
And they hoped to see me again
BUT Americans are suspect. Naturally. I do not wonder.
I enclose a bit of German publication/ might interest Mr. Iwado, if he does not already receive Hoffmann's bulletin? ?
If you can get Chang Kai Chek to read my Cantos 52-61 may be he wd/ make a sane peace. I see that his side kick kung/ has got his fingers burned/ and I shd/ think it was rightly, as he has not followed his great ancestor's teachings.
Mencius continues to be the most modern oriental author in spite im- ported sur-realism. / As far as I can make out all Chinese philosophy (apart from Kung and Mencius) is bunk plus opium/ but my means of knowledge are limited. Wish someone wd. get on with bilingual edition
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of the INTERESTING books of the orient/ meaning Japan and China. The bloomink hindoos and mohammeds don't ring my bloomink bell. Oh well; that is a bit exaggerated/ there once was a bloke called Avicenna.
Sorry Faber didn't print the map with my Cantos 52/61
it might have helped people to understand why Japan is in China/ and the altar of heaven etc/
Every time I meet an oriental I am told to pronounce everything differently. God knows what the censorship here
makes of ideogram. Any how, last week I was told to pronounce it "Taa Sheu" (which is written Ta Hio? ? ) How do you say it in Giappone? Taku Shoshi? ? . .
As to Mr. whatshisname at yr/ Kultur buro/ 1 shd/ have thought that the /. Times with especially its advertising matter/ "cRRRReatest electric etc/" in the world/ etc. was adequate to tell the Occident about how modern (and/or American) Japan is.
Matsumiya has left Rome, so I couldn't get round to poesy/ 1 mean if etc/ Noh is out/ and the living writers incomprehensible. Anyhow they were nice blokes. And so forth.
The article you sent is the fourth of mine that I have seen in print in the jm
I don'tknowhowmanytheyhavereceived?
If there is anything you, personally, want me to write about do say so.
Is there any way for me to get a copy of K. Takashi (Itoh's) British EmpireandPeople/oneyen. 80(Seinenshobo,Kanda. Publishers. )I wd/ gladly review it here if the editors will send it/ or I will buy it if you can extract one yen. 80 from Mr. Iwado to be deducted from my next cheque, plus postage. And as soon as we have a sane peace with FUNK's eu- ropean plan in action and proper monetary system, I will stop boring you to death with econ/politico/geo/etc. and behave like an aesthete/ occupying myself with dramady/ poesy/ music etc. as a true inhabitant of Miaco (or however you now spell it, after the interval).
Maybe if Mr. Takashi (Itoh) cd/ see my stuff in the //T. he wd. think me competent to review his volume/ Tell him to vary his reading of Mencius with reading of the London Who's Who of company directors/ (or vice versa) (may be he has, I can't tell from the brief notice of his book. J. T. supplement 18th July. )
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Laughlin is supposed to bring out Cantos in Sept. American mail comes here via Japan or by air/ when the damn brit/yitts dont swipe it in Ber- mudah.
IF you know of any i. kss glorious period of U. S. diplomacy than the present, tell papa.
And if Willkie so kindly delivers us, I shall have to go home and tell HIM that European history didn't stop in 1919.
HeiJ. ' Banzai. ' AJaLA. '. '
From the pinnacle of your youth look down with at least kindliness on my elderly exuberance.
ever yours E. Pound
95: Ezra Pound to Katue Kitasono
TLS-l Anno XVIII, Via Marsala 12-5, Rapallo, with Gaudier-Brzeska profile head. 5 September 1940
Dear Kit Kat
The poetic life is full of pitfalls. Thanks very much for bothering about the money orders, but 97 yen make something like 450 lire ITALIAN / the 45 or 46 lire marked on the red slip probably meant GOLD lire.
The post office here is looking into the matter. May be they will be able to pay something like the value of the 97 yen.
This note is a howl of caution. If there ever are any more yen, watch the postal clerk and see that the lire are either clearly marked GOLD (oro] or that the number of Italian lire (should be) roughly 4 and half times the (number) of the yen/
Such are the horrors of war/ with no english money, and considerable delay about American money.
One of the jokers in the back page of the Times weekly/ made some remarks about money and humour a few months ago/ meaning it arrived here a month ago.
In the mean time let us erect shrines and/or temples to Aphrodite and Apollo. That is to say let Europe do so.
and don't import sheep-cult-ites into Tokio.
Sorry to bother you with detail in first part of this note. E. Pound
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96: Katue Kitasono to Ezra Pound
TLS-l vou CLUB 1649 1-tiome-nisi magome-mati, omoriku, tokio. 26 September 1940
Dear Ezra,
I received your bright letter of August 25, which made me laugh a pelican's laugh.
It was a good comic scene that they (K. B. S. ) could do nothing but gave a damn good cup of coffee to such a great poet and said "see you again. " They are nothing more than sparrow eggs.
Chinese pronunciation is very subtle. In Japan we pronounce Ta Hio, "Dai Gaku. " The pronounciation dictionary for middle school published in Shanghaiteachesustopronouncejl_ ^^"TaHsio. "AnotherChinesetext shows to pronounce it "Ta Hsu. "/ \ 3-
I think the J. T. and their readers would be very glad to know your opinion like what is to be the cultural policy in such a country like Japan. On the 20th of August I sent you a money order for the sum of Y34. 20, as you will find the account of J. T.
I shall be able to find the best way to get a copy of Takasi Itoh's book, British Empire and People, and I will send it to you as soon as possible. Before posting this letter, I inquired of the publisher.
ever yours, Katue Kitasono
97: Ezra Pound to Katue Kitasono
TLS-2 Anno XVIII, Via Marsala 12-5, Rapallo, with Gaudier-Brzeska profile head. 2 October 1940
Dear Kit Kat
Sorry to be a damn nuisance. The post office here apparent- ly cant rectify the money order. 97 yen is over 20 dollars and 46 lire ITALIANE makes about two dollars.
Might be a way of pejorating nippo-merican relations but won't convince europe that Japan is on the way to greater asia. Also attacking America in her most exposed part (i. e. old EZ) won't affect the wicked plots/ usurers etc.
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45 lire oro/ gold lire, would come nearer to the worth of 97 yen/
Anyhow, I am chancing the 2 bucks on the possibility you can rectify/ absorption of 90% of value in transit won't do. Wont serve the Japanese cause.
Incidentally I have never used (or heard used) the term Jap as derogative. Nihon Jin is O. K.
The -anese makes very bad sound, and movement of word very difficult to get into elegant sentence. However let manners be manners.
How do you say Li Ki in Japanese? t^ -z^
Also I haven't had copy of Ponder's Modern Poetry/ which supposedly appeared in April. A comfort to see oneself in print. If you can get me a copy without wasting a weeks work, I shd/ be grateful.
Sea is looking O. K. with no brit. cruisers visible.
Am just back from Siena and trying to catch up with work. Mary af-
ter two months in Tyrol "gone native" to her mother's distress, so there is tremendous effort to make her Salonfahig before she goes back to La Quiete/
all after my instructions that she shd/ become Bauern/dhig to keep up with the times. At any rate her tennis is improving. I shall try that pic- ture (on her) of Japanese girls en masse with swords, to see if it will stimulate "union of cultures. "
I don't know whether Times wants me to insist that "Four Scarlatti wont make a Vivaldi. " (Sienese music week. )
They seem to be standing my economic frightfulness pretty
well.
On the other hand will they believe me an economist if they can make me believe in the post office idea of relation of yen to Italian lire?
That seems a subject for Cub Reporter (with my compliments). You can give him these notes if he is a friend.
My venerable father delighted with the Servant of the People article. My New York agent beseeching me to write literary Reminiscence (he wd/ probably faint if he saw a copy of J. T. for Aug. 22). Of course I dont know that you (K. K. ) approve of my crawling down the slopes of Parnas- sus. You have maintained tactful silence.
And confound it why does paper ruck on this machine. (1 will again exhort Meridiano office to send you the paper. ) Yours
Ezra Pound (P. S. post o_ffice is sending back the Vaglia money order to your p. o. )
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98: Fosco Maraini to Ezra Pound
ALS-l Kita 11, Nishi 3, Sapporo, Hokkaido, Japan. 14 October 1940
Dear Sir,
I've been reading your articles in the Meridiano, not constantly as mails are rare up here, but with great intellectual pleasure. I must now write these two words to tell you how I agree with you about the Chinese classics. It is simply monstrous how stuffy our western outlook is still in this very year 1940, a long time after Matteo Ricci's words ought to have had some effect. Wemustsoonsoartotheleveloftheworld:ThenKungufuTsuJ[_ ir ^- Men-tsu etc, will have their places next to the usual heroes of our school days.
It is good that somebody like you should say such things. Some one from beyond the sea has always a wonderful effect: such is the nature of man. Thank you!
Yours sincerely Fosco Maraini
99: Ezra Pound to Katue Kitasono
TLS-3 Anno XIX, Via Marsala 12-5, Rapallo, with Gaudier-Brzeska profile head. 29 October 1940
Dear Kit Kat
Happy New Year, and for Kristzache get an idea of the rela- tive value of YEN and lire.
I have cashed yr/ last postal order for 156 lire/ damn.
That is about six dollars. The regular exchange of the dollar being at 19 lire to the dollar, but as resident foreigner I can get a 20% bonus/ bring- ing it to nearly 24.
Unless the yen has bust, it was worth about 40 cents/ so that 34 wd/ have been worth 13 dollars plus.
I dont mind putting up six or seven bucks to get the Sassoons out of Shanghai, or damaging the opium revenue in Singapore (48% due to hop), but I shd/ hate to have it used to scrag me rough-necked brothers from Iowa.
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As I cant cash american cheques, save at risk to the Brits stealing 'em off the clipper in the Bahamas/ and as nothing (now) comes from English publications, this thin line of supplies from the J/T is, or would be, use- ful if allowed to flow in with proper, i. e. as at the source, dimensions.
If you can't get sense out of the postal system, for gord'z sake try a bank/ must be some Italian bank with an office in Tokio? ? ? Or the American express co/ must exist, and continue bizniz at least until or unless hosti- litiesbustout,whichI hopetheywon't.
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Cultural notes; possibly for VOU. Appearance of P. Tyler in J. T. reminds me that:
NO editor in America, save Margaret Anderson, ever felt the need of, or responsibility for, getting the best writers concentrated i. e. brought together in an American periodical. She started in Chicago, went to S. Francisco, then N. York and ended by pub/ing The Little Review in Paris. Evidently the aim was alien to American sensibilities.
The Dial might fool the casual observer; but its policy was not to get the best work or best writers. It got some. But Thayer aimed at names, wanted european celebrities, and spent vast sums getting their left overs. You wd/ see the same thing in American picture galleries, after a pain- ter is celebrated (and the Europeans have his best stuff] dealers can sell it to American "connoisseurs. "
European proportions, a. d.