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wilt submit the wilfully and mekely thys men firste were persued enemyes, now they worthy prelate that hath cure the soule. haue obliged them othe for slaunder and And for the pytie Christe (said they) be persue Christe his members. Wherfor thinke the, howe great clerkes the bishop truste stedfastely the goodnes God, the Lincoln, Herford, and Purney, wer and yet are, worldly couetousnesse, and the lustie lyuyng, and also that well vinderstondinge man, and the slyding fro the treuth these runa which also haue forsaken and reuoked all the gates, shall me and many other men learnynge and opinions, that thou and soche and women example, and euidence other holde. Wherefore syns eche them stonde the more stifly the trewith
Christe. mekill wyser than thou arte, we counsell the For certeyn, right many men and women doo for the beste, that the example thes four marke and abhorre the foulnesse and coward
clerkes thou folowe them, submyttynge the nesse these forsaide untrewe men, howe that they did. —And one the bishopes clerkes they are ouercome and stopped with benefyces, said than there, that he herde Nicoll Herforde and withdrawen fro the treuth Goddes say, that syns forsoke and reuoked the worde, forsaking vtterly suffer therfore bodel learning and Lolardes opinions, hathe had persecucyon. For, this vinfeithfull doynge mekill greater favour, and more delyte holde and apostasie them, specially that great ageinst them, than euer hadde holde with lettered men and haue knowledged openly the them while he helde with them. —And therefore treuth, and now other pleasure displea Malueren said me, vnderstonde and thou sure
wilt take the forsake
priest, and shryue the clene; wages soch opinions, and take thy pe against
tyrantes haue taken hyer and temporal forsake the trewthe, and holde slaundering and persewing them that
naunce teaching
shalt And
solowe Christ the waye righte greatly conforted this doing. ’ nowe moued; but many mo, thorow the grace
said counselled me
the Clerkes that thus besyly God, shall moued hereby for learne the solow these forsaide men, treuth God, and doo thereafter, and
my lord here, for the holding and couete
them, with shorte tyme thou ousnesse, many men and women therforo are
Sirs, thes men,
take example, had forsaked benefyces tem
porall profyte, and worldly worshippe,
that they had absented them and eschewed
frome occasyons couetousnesse, and
fleschely lustes, and had taken them symple
lyuynge, and wilfull pouerte, they hadde herein geuen goode example me, and many other
stond boldely thereby.
Than the Archebishoppe sayde Clerkes, “Besy you lenger aboute hym; for and
other soche are confedered gither, that they will not sweare obedient, and submytte them prelates holy chirche.
For nowe syns stode here, his felowe sente
whome counsell me
me worde that will not sweare, and that haue folowed them. But now, syns thes counselled hym that sholde not sweare
foure men haue slaunderovsly and shamefully me. And, losell, that thynge that the done the contrarye, consentyng receyue and thou haste besyed the loose thys yonge man; haue and holde temporall benefyces, but blessed God, thou shalt not haue thy
lyuynge now more worldly and more fleschely than they did before, conformyng them the
purpose hym: hath forsaken thy learnynge, submyttyng him buxum and obedient the ordinaunce holy churche, and wepeth full bitterly, and curseth the full hartely for the venemous teachynge whiche thou
this worlde; forsake them herein, their forsaid slaunderous doynge. purpose with the help God into re
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will lede them the worste ende, conue est; therfore many deathes thou arte wor nient tyme they repente them not, verely for thy thou hast geuen euell councelles. sakynge and reuokynge openly the slaunder that And therefore Jesu thou shalt thyther, they haue, put and euery daye yet put where Nicoll Harforde and Tom Purnay were Christes Churche. For certeyn open blas herbered. And vindertake, thys daye pheunye and slaunder they have spoken and eighte dayes thou shalt righte gladde for done their reuokyng and forsakyng the doo what thynge that euer bydde the doo.
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And, losell, I shall assaye if I can make the drounde me the sea, for near hande there. there as soroufull (as it was tolde me) thou And Clerke standyng besyde me there, kne
waste gladie of my laste going out of England;
by seynt Thomas I shall tourne thy joye into sorowe. ’—And I sayde, Sir, there can no body preue laufully that I ioyed euer of the manner
of youre goynge out of this lande. But, sir, to saye the sothe, I was joyfull whan ye were gone; for the bishop of London, in whos pry son ye lefte me, founde in me no cause for to holde me lenger in hys pryson, but at the re queste of my frendes, he delivered me to them, asking of me no manner of submittyng.
Than the Archebishoppe said to me, ‘Wher fore that I yede out of England is vnknowen to the ; but be this thinge well knowen to the, that God (as I wote well) hath called me ageyne, and broughte me into this lande for to destroye the and the false secte that thou arte of, as by God I shall persue you so naroulye, that I shall not leave a steppe of you in thys lande. ’ And I said to the abp. Sir, the holy prophete Jeremy said to the false prophet Anany, ‘Whan the “worde that is the prophecye of a prophete is * knowen or fulfilled, than it shall knowen “ that the Lorde sent the prophete in treuthe. '
Archebishop,
—And the as if he hadde not
been pleasid with my saiynge, turned hym without
awaye warde hyther and thyther, and sayde, “By God I shall sette upon thy shynnes a pair of perlis, that thou shalt be gladde to chaunge thy voice. ’ -
Thes and many mo wonderous and convicious wordes were spoken to me, manassing me and
addicions submit hym. And than
other the same secte for punished
and destroyed vnto the vttermoste. And the Than while after the Archebishop said me, abp. called than hym Clerke, and rowned ‘Wilt thou not submit the the ordinance of
with him; and that Clerke went forthe, and holy Chirche? ' And said, Sir, will full gladly sone brought the constable Saltwoole submit me, haue shewid you before. And Castell, and the abp. rowned good while with than the Archebishop badde the constable hym, and than the constable went forthe, and haue me forthe thens haste; and then than cam diuerse seculers, and they scorned was led forth, and brought into foul unhonest me euery syde, and manassed me greatly; prison, where came never before
and some counselled the abp. burne me After this, not known what became and by, and some other counselled hym him; but most probably died prison.
19. Proceedings against John BADBy, for Heresy: Henry IV. 1409. [Fox's Acts and Monuments, 679. ]
examination following one John Badby, tailor, being lay man, was made certaine
house hail within the precinct the preach
IN the yeere our Lord 1409, Sunday be ber other lords both spirituall and tem ing the 1st day March, the afternoone, the porall, being then the selfe same time
contained the instrument read the ing friers London, vtter cloister, vpon foresaid master Morgan, the tenor whereof
the crime heresie, and other articles repug nant the determination of the erroneous
followeth, and effect such. -In the name God, Amen. Be manifest men
Church Rome, before Thomas Arundell,
archbishop Canterbury, and others his as
sistants, the archbishop Yorke, London, ing the course and computation the
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copi, and also Edmund duke Yorke, Thomas Bewford the chancellor England, lord Roos the clerke the roles, and great num
the yeere after the incarnation our Lord, accord
Winchester, Norwich, England,
lede downe the abp. , praiyng hym that wolde delyuer me hym for saye matenes with hym, and wolde vndertake that within thre dayes sholde not resiste any thynge that were commaunded me doo my prelate. And the abp. said, that would ordeine for me himselfe. And than after came ageyn the constable, and spake priuely the abp. And than the abp. commaunded the constable lede me forthe thens with hym, and did; and whan we wer gone forthe thens, we wer sent after ageyn. And whan came ageyne before the abp. Clerke badde me knele downe, and aske grace, and submit me lowly, and sholde synde for the beste,
And said than the abp. “Sir, hane
will wilfully
syde; and yet after this diuerse persones cried vpon me knele down and submit me, but stood still and spake worde and than there was spokyn me, and me many greate wordis and stoode and herde them manase, curse, and scorne me; but said nothing. —
said you diuerse tymes to-day, and lowly obey and submit me euer after my connyng and power
ordenid God, and holy
his lawe, and to, euery membre
Chirche, ferre forth can perceyue that thes membres accorde with their hedde Christe, and will teach me, rule me, chastyse me authority specially ‘I Goddis lawe. And the Archebishop said, wiste well wolde not
of.
was rebukyd, scornyd, and manasyd euery
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this present publike instrument, that
Salis Church otherwise
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1409, the second indiction,
the popedome the most holy father Christ
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the chapell Caruariae, of Saint Thomas martyr, pronounced the said Iohn before this time nigh voto the cathedrall church of Worcester, coullicted such an heresie, and that he hath being situate in the said diocesse, in the pre bin and heretike, and the end declared sence of me the publike notarie, and of the these words:
witnesses vinder written, the aforesaid John “In the name God, Amen. We Thomas Badby a layman, of the said diocesse of Wor bishop Worcester doe accuse thee Iohn Bad
cester, appearing personally before the reuerend by, being lay man our diocesse, and father in Christ and Lord, lord Thomas, by the vpon the crime heresie, before sitting for grace of God bishop of Worcester, sitting in the chiefe iudge, being oftentimes confessed and said chappell for chiefe iudge, was detected of conuicted and vpon that, that thou hast and vpon the crime of heresie being heretically taught, and openly affirmed, hitherto thou taught, and openly maintained by the foresaid dost teach, boldly affirme, and defend; that the John Badby: that that the sacrament the sacrament the body Christ, consecrated body Christ, consecrated the priest vpon vpon the altar the priest, not the true body the altar, not the true bodie Christ the Christ; but after the sacramental words,
that, body vertue the words the sacrament. But make the
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writings. ”—These things were done accordingly aboue written, and are recited the ing examined, and diligently demanded the yeere, indiction, popedome, inoneth, day, and foresaid reuerend father concerning the pre place aforesaid, being present the same time
misses, the end did answere; that was im John Malune prior the cathedrall church possible that any priest should make the body Worcester, John Dudle monke, and Haule the
Christ, and that beleuved firmely that sub-prior the said church, Thomas Penings no priest could make the body Christ, the order the Carmelites, Thomas Feken such words sacramentally spoken such sort. haim the order the preaching Friers, Wil And also said expressely that hee would liam Pomfret the order the Minorites, be neuer while liued beleeue that any priest ing professors and masters diuinitie, William could make the body Christ handled Hales, Gualter London, John Swippedew
the hands the priest vpon the altar, being publike Notaries, and William Beu
his corporall forme. And furthermore said that John Raker of Bristoll had as much
Christ vertue after the sacramentall words spoken the the said sacramentall words pronounced,
Christ, the materiall the altar the beginning, neither turned into the very body Christ after the sacramentall words spoken the priest. Which John Badby be
haue been the crime heresie; and we doe pronounce thee both hatre beene and bee heretike, and doe declare finally these
riest make the body
doth remaine
vpon
power and authoritie Christ, any priest
make the like body
had. Moreouer supper with
Hembury, Iohn Westen sons churches, and
that when Christ
ples, hee had not his body his hand,
said,
disci master saint Wolston
intent distribute his disciples; and morton and William Wasseborne, esquires said expressely, that did not this thing. And the diocesse Worcester and Norwich, and also spake many other words teaching and many other worshipfull and honest men being fortifying the heresie the same place, both witnesses and called specially the things grieuous, and also out order, and horrible aforesaid. —And Iohn Chew Clerke, the the eares the hearers, sounding against the dioces Bathe and Welles, and the autho Catholike faith. -Upon which occasion the rity apostolicall, publicque notarie the said same reuerend father admonished and requested bishop, haue testimonie the premisses put the said John Badby ostentimes, and very in iny hand and seale the examination, inter stantly charitie; for much would rogation, monition, and answer the same willingly that should haue forsaken such Iohn Badby, and his obstinacie, and also heresie and opinion holden, taught, and main the proceedings and singular other doings
tained by him, such sort against the sacra aforesaid, which against him before the ment, renounce, and vtterly abiure them, said bishop were handled and done, the
and beleeue other things which the holy mother the Church doth beleeue. And he in
formed the said Iohn on that behalfe both
gently, and also laudably. Yet the said Iohn Badby, although were admonished and re quested both often and instantly the said reuerend father, said and answered expressely, that hee would neuer beleeue otherwise than before had said, taught, and answered. Whereupon the foresaid reuerend father bishop
yeere, indiction, popedome, moneth, day, and
Worcester seeing, vinderstanding, and per
ceiuing the foresaid Iohn Badby maintaine
and fortifie the said heresse, being stubborne,
and proceeding the same stubbornenesse, and, the authoritie apostolicall, publike no
champe and Thomas Cerbris being knights, Richard Wish Tredington, Thomas Wilbe
Yewley, being par Thomas Baleinges, the Worcester, and also the Henry Haggely, Iohn Pemerell, Thomas Trog
place aforesaid,
witnesses was personally present: and the same, euen heard them and saw them bee done (being occupied with other matters) caused bee written and published, and into this publike forme haue compiled the same.
the foresaid notarie am also priuie vnto the words and examinations interlined between seuen eight lines the beginning this in strument, which lines also the foresaid notarie doe approue and make good. —And Walter London clerke, the diocesse Worcester,
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and singular the foresaid things all the said conclusions were often read the foresaid notarie recited, and vulgar tongue; the foresaid archbishop de
afore the
the yeere, indiction, popedome, moneth, day, manded him, whether hee would renounce
and place aforesaid handled and done, being and forsake his opinions and such like conclu with other the forerecited witnesses personally sions not, and adhere the doctrine
present, and and euery the same (as saw and heard them done, being there
faithfully ". required):
unto desired and testi
mony the premisses haue signed and sub scribed according the accustomed manner. Haec Reg. Cant. And when the articles,
the foresaid instrument contained, were the archbishop of publikely and vul
fessed and affirmed, that hee had both said and maintained the same. And then the archbishop
ued;
garly read and publikely con
faith; thing
which doe the audience
the lords and others that were present, hee ex presly denyed and refused. —After this, when the aforesaid archbishop Canturbury,
appro
conuince the constant purpose the said
Iohn Badby, commanded the same articles and the bishop London had consulted toge againe read, often instructing him both ther, what safe keeping the said Iohn Badby
Christ and Catholike faith? He answered, that, according that had said before, would adhere and stand those words, which before he had made answere vnto. Then the arch bishop oftentimes required the said John,
the bowels of Jesus Christ that hee would for sake those opinions and conclusions, and that henceforth he would cleaue the Christian
words and examples, informing and exhort (vntill the Wednesday next) might com
ing him that thereby might bee brought the mitted; was concluded, that hee should bee
sooner the religion that was And put into certaine chamber safe house with furthermore the said archbishop said and af the mansion the Friers preachers, and firmed there openly the same Iohn, that was: and then the archbishop Canturbury would (if would liue according the doc said, that hee himselfe would keepe the keye trine Christ) gage his soule for him the thereof the meane time. And when
foresaid Wednesday was expired, being the day March, and that the foresaid archbisho
the liuing God. —Also, when the second article England, and the lord Beamond with other
iudgement day. And after that againe caused those articles the said instrument ex
pressed read the foresaid Philip
Morgan, and the said archbishop himselfe ex
pounded the same English before: where
unto Iohn Badby answered: As touching the
first article concerning the body Christ, hee archbishop Yorke, Richard London, Henry expresly said, that after the consecration Winchcster, Robert Chichester, Alexander the altar, there remaineth materiall bread, and Norwich, and the noble prince Famund the the same bread which was before notwith duke Yorke, Rafe earle Westmerland, standing (said he) signe sacrament Thomas Beaufort knight, lord chancellour
was expounded vnto him, that impossible
for any priest, &c. To this article answered and said, that could not sinke into his mind
noble men well spirituall, temporall, that stoode and sate by, whom name would bee
long. Before whom the said Iohn Badby was called personally answere vnto the articles premised the foresaid instrument. Who when hee came personally before them, the articles were read the officiall the court
Canterbury and the archbishop (in the
vulgar tongue) expounded publikely and ex
presly: and the same articles, had before
they literally lie, vinlesse should denie the incarnation
that the words are taken
Christ. —Also being examined the third arti ele concerning Iacke Raker, hee said, that Iacke Raker were man good liuing, and
did loue and feare God, hath much power doe, hath the priest and said further,
that hath heard diuinitie, that
consecrated bread,
damned, and were damned doing. —Fur specially bee noted, that the lord duke thermore hee said that he would beleeve the Yorke personally there present, aforesaid, omnipotent God trinitie; and said moreouer, and euery man else for the time being,
that enery host being consecrated the altar more estimation and reputation, than the Sa were the Lord's body, that then there crament the altar, the priest due forme 20,000 gods England. But beleeued (he consecrated. And whilest they were thus his said) one God omnipotent, which thing the examination, the archbishop considering and foresaid archbishop Canterbury denied not. weighing that hee would wise bee altered,
—And when the other conclusion was ex
pounded, ositting disciples supper, That Christ with said,
&c. To this answered and
that would greatly maruell, that any man
and seeing moreouer his countenance stout and heart confirmed, that began perswade
bread, and should breake the every man mouth-full, that
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When these things were thus finished, and truth his Catholike faith (executing and do
afterwards be
whole
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bring the said Iohn Badby from his constant
Canterbury, with his fellow brethren and suf fragans, were assembled the church Saint Paul London; the archbishop Canturbury taking the episcopall seat called vnto him the
spoken and deposed, hee still held and defended, should receiue any such and said, whilest liued, would neuer re were worthy bee tract the same. And furthermore, he said
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ing the office of his great master) proceeded to counselled him, that hauing respect vnto him confirme and ratifie the former sentence giuen selfe hee should speedily withdraw himselfe out before by the bishop of Worcester against the of these dangerous labyrinths of opinions, add said Iohn Badby, pronouncing him for an open ing oftentimes threatnings, the which might and publike heretike. And thus shifting their
hands of him, they deliuered him to the secular
power; and desired the said temporall lords,
then and there present very instantly, that they
would not put the same Iohn Badby to death
for that his offence, nor deliver him to be pu brought with solemnity the Sacrament nished or put to death, in the presence of all
the lords aboue recited. —These things thus
done and concluded by the bishops in the fore
noone: in the afternoone, the king's writ was
not farre behind. By the force wherof Iohn
Badby, still perseuering in his constancie vnto God's body. And then was the tunne put ouer the death, was brought into Smithfield, and, him, and fire put vinto him. And when hee felt there being put in an empty barrell, was bound the fire, hee cried, Mercy (calling belike upon with iron chaines fastened to a stake having the Lord) and the prince immediatly com drie wood put about him. —And as he was thus manded take away the tunne, and quench standing in the pipe or tunne (for as yet Peril the fire. The prince, his commandement being lus bull was not in vse among the bishops) it done, asked him he would forsake heresie happened that the prince, the king's eldest take him the faith holy Church; which sonne, was there present. Who, shewing some thing hee would doe, should haue goods part of the good Samaritane, began to ende enough, promising also vnto him yeerely
uour and assay how to saue the life of him, stipend [of three-pence a-day out the king's whom the hypocriticall Leuites and Pharisies treasury long lived. This offer re sought to put to death. Hee admonished and jected, and was then burnt death. ]
20. The Trial and Examination Sir John OLDCASTLE, Lord Cobham, for Heresy, before the Archbishop Canterbury:
hauc daunted any man's stomacke. Also Courtney, at that time chancellor of Oxford, preached vnto him, and enformed him of the faith of holy Church. -In this meane season the prior of Saint Bartlemewes in Smithfield
God's body, with twelue torches borne before, and shewed the Sacrament the poore man being the stake. And they demanding
him how beleeued answered, that
knew well was hallowed bread, and not
Hen. V. Chron. 544.
Hale's
1413.
Hall's Chron. 24. Stow's Annals, 344.
AFTER that the true seruaunte
Chryst, Johan Wycleue, man
lent lyfe and learning, had for the space more than yeares mooste valeauntly battell
with the great antichrist Europa, the Pope Rome, and his diuersly disgysed host
C. 141.
very excel
Collected John Bale. [Holin.
Fox's Acts and Monuments, 726, 845. ] Jesus prelates with their pharysees and scribes were
thus gathered thys pestilent councell against the Lorde and his Woorde, fyrst there re
sorted vnto them the Inquisitours Here syes (whom they had appointed Oxford the ere afore, serche out heretikes with all Wic anoynted, hypocrites, restore the Church eues bookes) and they brought 266 faithfull again the pure estate that Chryst left her Conclusyons whome they had collected here hys ascensyon, departed hens most syes the seyd bokes. The names the seid
christely into the handes God, the yeare
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cluded among themselves, that it was not pos ter God, bearing the sworde the punish sible for them to make whole Christes cote ment Yll-doers, and for the sauegarde of
without seme (meaning thereby their patched them that vertuous. Unto you next my popysh synagoge) onlesse certeyne great men acternal God, owe my whole obedience, and were brought out of the way, which semed to submit my thervnto, haue done euer, all be the chere mainteners of the seyd disciples of that have eyther fortune nature, redy
Wicleue : among w home the most noble knight times fulfill what euer sir Johan Oldcastell, the lord Cobham (a) was lorde commaund me; but complained of by the generall proctours, yea pope and hys spiritualty, truly rather betrayers of Christ in his faithful mem ney ther sute nor scruice; for bers, to be the chefe principal. 1 they knowe hym the Scriptures
the open preachers in the dioceses of London, Roches adversary God, and the abominacyon stand ter, and Hereforde, contrary to the mindes of ing the holy place. ” Whan the king had
their ordynaries: not only they affirmed him hearde this, with sochclyke sentences more, he
in ac
cused first for a mighty maintener of suspected antichryste, the sonne perdicyon,
to have sent thyder the seid preachers, but also
to haue assisted them ther by force of armes,
notwithstanding their sinodall constitucion
made afore to the contrarye. Last of all, they
accused him, that he was firre other wise in rite cyte hym, examine hym, and punyshe
beleue of the Sacrament of the Altre, or Pe him according the deuelishe decrees, whehe
naunce, of Pilgrymage, or Ymage-worshipping, and of the Ecclesiastycall power, than the holy churche of Rome had taught many years afore.
In the ende it was concluded among them, that wythoute anye farther delaye, processe
shuide oute agaynst hym, as agaynst a moost pernycyous Heretike. —Som of that felloushyp, whyche were of more craftye experyence than the other, wold in no case haue that matter so rashlye handeled, but thought thys waye moche
better. Consydering the seid lord Cobham was
a man of great byrth, and in fauer at that tyme
with the king, theyr counsell was to knowe first
the kinges mynde, to saue thynges right vp. done. Than called the archebishop one John
This counsell was well accepted, and ther vpon Butler unto him, whych was than the dorekeper the archbishop Thomas Arundeil, wythe his the kynges prive chamber, and with him
other shoppes, and great part the cler couenaunted through promises and rewards
gy, went strayght wayes vinto the kyng, than haue this matter craftely brought passe vinder remayninge Kenyngton; and there layed the king's name. Wherevpon the seyd John forth most greuous complaynies against thesāied Butler toke the archebyshops sommener with lord Cobham, great infamy and blemysh, hym, and went vinto the sayd lord Cobham being man most godly. The king gentilly shewing him that was the king's pleasure harde those bloud thurstyrauenours; and farre that shuld obeye that citacyon, and cyted
otherwise than became his princelye dignitie, him fraudulently. Than said vnto them instauntly desyred them, that respect few woordes, that no case wold he consent
noble stock and knighthode, they shuld yet those moost deuelish practices the priestes. fauourably deale with him; and that they As they had informed the abp. the Answere, wold, were possible, without rigour and that was mete for man priuately extreme handeling, reduce him again the cyte him after that without parell lyfe, churches unite. IIe promised them also, that decreed and haue him cyted pub
case they were not contented take some licke processe open commaundment. And
wolde talke vtterly.
And him for
Archebishop resorted again vnto Answere, gone him his full aucto
the
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they call the lawes holy church. Than the seid abp. the councell hys other bishoppes and clergy, appointed call before him syrJohn Oldcasteli, the lord Cobham, and cause him personally appeare answere suche sus pect Articles they shuld lay against him. So sent forth his chefe sommener, with very sharp citacion, vnto the castell Cow ling, where that tyme dwelt for his so
shall that touching the
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the great
the hast possible. uppot, the Wednysday before the natiuite oure Ladye September,
Anon after the kyng sent for the styd lord
Cobham and was come, called him
sccretly, admonishing him betwixt him and chester, (which was but English myles from him, submit him selfe hys mother the theirs) charging him apere personally before holy church, and obedient chyld ac him Ledys, the 11th daye the same knowledge bin scise culpable. Vnto whom the moneth and yeare, excuses the contrary Christen knight made this answere, ‘You most set apart. Those letters were taken downe
deliberacion, his selfe wold serously common the matter with him.
worthy prince,' saith he, “am always prompt anon after, such bare fauer vnto the lorde and ling obeye, for moche knowe Cobham, and conueyed asyde. After that
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grand-daughter and heir lord Cobhan. Than moche did not apeare
you Christen kinge, and the appointed minis caused the archebishoppe newe letters set
the natiuitie day our Ladye, which (a) called right his wife, who was also were rent downe and vtterly consumed.
lace. And the scyd sommener was thether comen, durste case entre the gates
noble man without his lycens; and there fore returned home agayne, hys message pot
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the day appoynted at Ledys (where as he sate God Almyghtyes. beleue also that the
in consistory, as cruell as euer was Cayphas, with his court of hipocrites aboute him) he
seconde parsonne this most blessed Tri nite, most conuenient tyme appointed there unto afore, toke flesh and bloud the most
judged hym, denounced him, and condemned
him of most depe contumacy: after that whan blessed Virgyn Mary, for the sauegard and re
he had bene falsely infourmed by his hierd spyes, and other glosing glauerers, that the sayd
dempcion the uniuersall kynd man, which was afore lost Adam's offence. Moreouer, beleue that the same Jesus Christ our Lord
lord Cobham had lawghed him to scorne, dis
dayned his doings, mainteined his old opi thus being both God and man, the onely nions, contemned the churches power, the dig head the whole Christen Churche, and that nitie bishop, and the ordre presthode all those that hath bene, shal saued, be
hys mody membres this most holy church and this madnes, without just profe, dyd openly ex holy church think diuided into sortes
(for all these was than accused)
communicate him. Yet was he not for all this,
companyes. —Wherof the first sort now heauen, and they are the sayinctes from hens departed. These, they were here conuer saunt, conformed alwayes theyre lyues the with these cruell threatinges added therunto: most holye lawes and pure examples Chryste,
That did not obey that day, wold renouncyng Sathan, the worlde, and the flesh, more extremely handle him: and make him wythe their concupicences and euels. The
selfe more strong towardes the perfourmance second sort are purgatory (ys any such thereof, compelled the lay-power, most ter the scriptures) abydying the mercy God,
ferce tiranny qualifyed, but commaunded him cited fresh, apere afore him the Saturday
before the feast Saint Mathew the apostle,
rible menacinges curses and interdictions, a-syst him against that cedicious apostate schismatike, that heretike, that troubler the
and full delyuerance Payne. The thyrde sorte are here uppon the earth, and called the Church Mylytaunt. For daye and nyght they contend agaynst the crafty assaultes
publycke peace, that enemye the realme,
and greate adversarye holy chirche; for the deuel, the slattering prosperities thys
these hateful names dyd gue him.
This most constaunt seruant of the lord and
worlde, and the rebellyouse fylthynes the fleshe. . . —Thys latter congregation the juste ordinaunce of God also seuered into three diuerse estates, that say into priesthode, knighthode, and the comens. Amonge whom the wyll God that the one shuld ayde the other, but not destroye the other. The priestes
worthy knight Johan Oldcastell, the lord Cobham, beholding the vnpacable fury Anti christ this kindeled against him, perceiuing him self also compased every side with deadly daungers, toke paper and penne hand, and wrote Christen confession Rekening
worldlynesse shuld the examples Euermore shūlde Wherein he also answereth the chefest they occupied preaching and teaching
fyrst secluded from
his Faith (which fooweth here after) and conforme theyr lyues vtterly
both signed and sealed with his own hande Chryst and his Apostles.
Articles that the Archebishop layed against the Scriptures purely, and geuing whol him. That doone, toke the copye with him, som counsels good liuing the other and wente therwith the kyng, trustinge two degrees men. More modest also, fynd mercy and fauer
other was that Confession mon beleue somme called the Apostles Crede, than vsed: As thus.
his, than the com the churches faith, christen men
shuld they than any other sortes people. —In knighthode are they whych beare
sword lawe office. These shuld defende Gods lawes, and see that the gospell were purely taught, conforming their lyues the
same, and secludynge, false preachers yea these ought rather hasard their lyues than suffer such wycked decrees eyther blemisheth the eternal Testament God, yet letteth the fre passage thereof, whereby heresies and schismes might spring the church. For of none other ryse they suppose, than erro nyous constitucions, craftely fyrst creping
The Christen Beleue the Lord Cobham.
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maker heuen and earth; and Jesu Christ his only. Soone our Lord, which was conceyued
the Holy Gost, borne the Virgin Mary, suffred vnder Ponte Pilate, crucified, dead, and
buried, went doun helle, the third daye rose againe from death, ascended Heuen,
beleue God the Father Almighty,
his hande. None more louing, gentyll, and lowleye spirite
sitteth on the right hand God the Father under hypocrites lyes for auauntage. They Almightye, and from thens shall come agayne ought also preserue Gods peple from oppres
judge the quicke and the dead. beleue sors, tirauntes, and theues, and the clergy the Holy Gost, the vniversall holy churche, the supported long they teache purely, pray communion sainctes, the forgeuenes sinnes, rightly, and minister the Sacraments frely. And the vprising
Amen. —And
this my Faith
fastly beleue that there but one God Almighty, cording Gods prescript ordinaunce. —The
and whose godhead are these parsonnés, latter fellouship this church are the common the Father, the Sonne, and the Holy Gost, people, whose dewtye beare their good
and that those parsonnes are the same selfe mindes and true obedience the aforescyd
the flesh, and everlasting life. they them for more large Declaracion lav. office the Catholick Church, sted doinges, and
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ministers of God, their kinges, cyuile gouern
ours and priestes. The right office of these is justly to occupy euery man in faculte,
or the tilthe of the grounde. And one of them be an helper another, followynge waves theyr sortes the just commaundeinentes theyr Lord God. —Ouer and besydes thys, moost faith
fully beleue that the sacramentes Chrystes
church are necessary Chrysteu beleuers,
thys always sene to, that they truly minis
tred according Christes fyrst institucion judge. And hauyng hys Appeale there
and ordinaunce. And for so moch am hande redye written, shewed wyth malyciously and most falsely accused mis reuerence the kyng. Wherwith the kyng beleue the sacrament the aulter, the was than moche more displeased than afore,
hurtfull slaundre many; signifye here unto and sayd angerlye unto him, that shuld not men, that this my fayth concerning that. pursue his Appeal: but rather shuld tarry
beleue that sacrament contayned
very Christes body and bloude under the simi
lytudes breade and wyne, yea, the same body
that was conceyued the Holy Gost, born
Mary the Virgin, done the crosse, dyed, that
was buried, arose the thyrd day from the death, moch o wold not sworn things
and now glorified Heauen. also beleue
the vniuersal lawe of God be moost true and what penaunce the archbishoppe would en
perfight, and they which not followe theyr fayth and workes one time other, can neuer be saued. Where as he that seketh
faith, accepteth
therein, and perfourmeth
for the felicity euerlasting innocency. — Than caused the aforesayd Confession
Finally, this
axe more but only
my faith also, that God wyll
bis Faith coppyed againe, and the An swere also (which had made the iiij. Ar ticles proponed agaynst him) wryten
maner Indenture two shetes paper; that whan shuld come his Answere, might geue the one copy vnto the archebishop,
Christen beleuer obey the preceptes
this lyse, that most the churche
any prelates
elsse anye other kynd obe
blessed law.
require more,
dience, than thys
Christ, exalting himself aboue God, and
becometh open Anti-Christe. All these
premisses belieue particularlye, and generally xxiii. day Septembre, the Saturday before
that God hath lest his holy scryptures
the feast saint Mathewe, Thomas Arundell the archebyshop, sytting Cayphas Roume, the Chapterhouse Paules, wyth Richard Clyfforde bisshop London, and Henry Bol ingbroke bisshop Winchester, Robert
instauntly desiring you, my lyege Lord and most worthy king, that thys
that shuld beleue
vsed, contemneth
and reserue the other himselfe. As the day Examination was comen, whyche was the
confession mine may justly examined
the most godly, wise, and learned men your
realme. And found pointes Morley knight and lefetenaunt the Towr, agreying the verite, than allowed, brought personally before him the seid Lord
and thervppon holden for none other than
Cobham, and there left hym for the time, vnto whom the archebishop sayd these wordes:
The fyrst Eramination the Lord Cobham, September 23. -
“Sir John, the last general Conuocation the clergye thys our prouynce, were
detected certain Heresyes, and sufficient witnesses founde culpable; whervppon were fourme spirituall lawe cyted, and wolde case appeare conclusion, vppon your rebellyous contumacie, were both priuatelye
and openlye excommunicated. Notwythstand
ing we neuer yet shewed oure selfe unreadye haue geugn you youre absolucion (nor yet
proued otherwise, viterly condemned prouided
taught better releue the word God, and shall most reuerently
times obey therunto. ”
Thys brefe confessyon hys fayth, the lorde
Cobham wrote, and toke wyth hym the court, offeryng wyth mekenesse vnto the
true christiane.
than
alwaies, that
kyng rede ouer. The kyng case receiue but commaunded lyuered unto them that shuld
wold
de his Judges.
desyred the kinges presens, that hondred knights and esquiers inight suffered
come vpon hys purgacyon, which knewe wolde clere him Heresyes. More ouer offred hymself after the law armes,
fyght for lyse death with any man lyuing, Christen IIeythen, the quarrell his faith, the king and the lordes his counsell ex
not axed it. ”
thys houre) wolde haue mekely Unto this the lord Cobham shewed
had giuen none eare, hauing his
cepted. Fynally, with gentilenesse pro
tested before that were present, that wold refuse no manner of correction that shuld
after the lawes God be ministred vnto him but that he wold all times with all mekenes obey Notwithstandyng thys, the kyng suffered him summoned personally his own preuy chambre. Than sayed the lord
Cobham the kyng, that
from the archbyshop the pope
had appealed Rome, and
therefore ought, sayd, case be his
hold, tyll such time were the allowed. And than, wold nyld he, archebishop shuld his judge. Thus was
there nothing allowed that the good lorde Cob ham had lawfully afore required. But for
submit himselfe the church, and take
againe kinges joyne was arested the
commaundment, and led forth the Tower London, kepe his day (so was than
spoken) that the archbyshop had appoynted
learneth delyghteth
loue, shall tast him afore the kinges chambre.
though
mynde otherwise occupied, and desyred none absolucion; But sayd, wold gladly
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before him and his brethren make rehersall of
that Fayth, which he helde and entended
always to stande to, yf it wolde please them to
lycens him therunto ; and than he toke out of
hys bosome a certein writing endented, con
cerning the Articles whereof he was accused, bury, Walsingham, Compostell, and Rome,
and so openly redde it before them, geuing it vnto the archebyshop, as he had made thereof an ende ; whereof thys is the copy:
any other places. ”
Thys Answere his Articles thus ended and redde, delyuered the bysshopes,
aside. formacion,
“IJohan Oldecastell knight and lord Cob ham, wyll Chrystem men vnderstand, That Thomas Arundell, archbyshop Canter bury hath not onely laid my charge mali
sayde afore. Than counceled the archbisshop wythe the other two byshoppes, and with dy uerse the doctours,what was done thys matter, commaunding him for the time stand
tyously, but also very vintruly hys letter and seale, written against me most slan
derouse wyse, that shuld otherwyse fele and teach the Sacramentes the Church (as signing specyally the Sacrament the Aulter, the Sacrament Penaunce, the worshipping
Ymages, and the going Pilgrimage vnto
them) far other wise than either beleueth
teacheth the vniuersall holye churche. take
Almyghte God vnto wytnesse, that hath
bene and nowe and euermore wyth the affirme, beleue, that the Sacrament helpe God shall my full intent and the Alter, after the Consecracion rightly done wyll, beleue faythfully and wholy the sa pryest, remaineth materall breade not? cramentes that ever God ordeined, mi Moreouer, whether hold, affirme, and nystred the holy church; and morouer, for beleue, that concerning the sacrament
declare me these iiij. points afore rehers penance(wher competent nombre priests
ed. —I beleue that the moost worshypfull sacrament the alter, Christs very body forme bread, the same body that was borne
the blessed Virgin Mary, done the crosse, dead and buried, and that the thyrd day arose
are) everye Chrystem manne necessarely bound to confessed hys synnes priest ordayned the church not
After certein other communication thys was the Answere the good lord Cobham, “That from death lyfe, the which body nowe glo none otherwise wold declare his minde, nor
knoweth the holy commaundementes God, and performeth them the ende his life his power, shal without fayle saued
Christ, though neuer his lyse pyl grimage men vse now dayes, Caunter
conclusion, theyr assent and in sayd thus vnto him Come hyder. this your Writing are many good
Johan;
thinges cjonteyned, and ryght Catholyck also,
not; but must consyder that
we deny
thys daye was appoynted you answere other poynts concerning those Articles, whereof
yet mencion made this your byll: and therefore must yet declare your mind more plainly; thus, Whether that holde,
for yet answere vnto hys Articles, than was ex presselye hys wrytinge there conteyned. ”
for Than sayd the archbishop againe vnto him, penaunce for ‘Syr Johan bewar what do; for an wyth true contricion God, confession swere not clerely those thinges that are here their fautes, and dewe satisfactyon Chryste, objected against you, specially the time ap
lyke Gods laws limiteth and teacheth, els pointed you only for that purpose, the lawe can they haue saluation; This penaunce holy church that compelled ones judge, desyre all men do. And for Images, we may openly proclayme heretike. ’ vnderstand that they perteyn nothing our Unto whom gaue this Answere, Do Christen beleue, but were permitted long sins shall thinke beste, for am point.
rified wyth the Father heaven. And
the sacrament penaunce, nedefull them that shall sake theyr sinne, and
beleue that saued,
the faith was geuen the churche, for
bring
Christ, sufferance Whatsoeuer the other bysshoppes did kalendars onto lay aske him after that, bad them resort his mind the passion byll, for therby wold stande the verye
men, represent
our Lorde Jesus Christ, with the martirdom death; other Answere wold not geue that
and good liuing the saintes. —I think also, day wherwith the bisshops and prelates were that whatsoeuer which doth that worship maner amased and wonderfully disquyeted. dead ynages, that duely belonging vnto God, At the last the Archbishop counselled again
that putteth his faith, hope, confidence
with his other bishops and doctours, and the
end therof declared vnto him what the holy
church Rome, folowing the sayinges
Austyn, Saint Hierom, Saint Ambrose,
other holy doctours, had determined
matters, no manner mencion ones made Christ; which determinacion (sayth he) ought
the helpe them, eternal lyuing God, one more than
shuld only
that hath affection other, perpetrateth
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doing the abhominable sine idolatry.
Moreouer this am fully perswaded, that
everye man dwellynge thys arth pil
grim, eyther towardes blesse, els towardes
payne. —And that which knoweth not, nor followe.
wyll not knowe, nor yet kepe the holy com Than said the lord Cobham vnto him, That maundementes God hy's lyuyng here (all wold gladlye bothe beleue and obserue be that goth
quarters the worlde) shall surely dampned.
pylgrymage into all whatsoeucr the holy church Christes insty departeth so, he. tucion had determined, yet whatsoeuer God
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that the pope of Rome with his cardinals, arch shulde answere; and therefore put his lyfe
byshopes, bishopes, and other prelates of that
church, had laufull power to determyne suche
matters as stode not with his word throughly, that wolde he not (he sayd) at that tyme affy rule. Wyth thys the archby-hoppe bad hym to take good aduysement tyil the Mon
into the handes God, desyring his onely
spyrit assist him his next answere. Whan
the seyo Xxv. day Septembre was come
(which was also the Monday afore Myghel masse) the sayd yeare our Lorde, 1413, Thomas Arundell, the Archbishop Caunter bury, commaunded his judiciall seate re moued from that chapterhouse Pauls, the
daye nexte followinge (which was the xxv. daye
of September) and then justlye to answere
specyallye vnto thys pointe, Whether there re Dominike Fryers wythin Ludgate London;
mayned materyal breade in the Sacrament of and was there set with Rychard the bi
the Aulter, after the wordes of consecration, or not? He promysed him also to sende vnto
shop London, Henry the bishop Winches
diucrse other doctours and friers; whom these are the names here followynge. aster
him in wryting those matters clerely deter
mined, that he myght than be the more per
syght in hys answere making; and this was
not els but blynde the multitude with som Henry Ware, the officyall Caunterbury; Phi
what. The next day following (according
his promes) the archbishop sent unto him into the Towr this folysh and blasphemouse Writt
lip Morgan, doctor Kislin, doctor
both lawes Howell the canon lawe; Johan the canon law Willyan ing, made him and his villearned clergye. Carleton, doctour the canon lawe; Johan Witnam, the New College Oxford; Johan
The Determination the Archbishop and Clergye.
Whiglithead, doctour Oxforde also Ro
Aulter, this, That after the sacramentall the Dominickes: Rychard Dodington, Prior wordes ones spoken priest his masse, the Augustines; Thomas Walden, Prior the the material bread, that was before bread, Carmelites, doctours diuinite; Johan turned into Christes very body; and the ma Steuens also, and James Cole, both notaries, teryall wyne, that was before wyne, turned appointed there purpously write all that into Chrystes very bloud; and there re
bert Wonbewell, vicar Saint Laurence “The Faith and Determination the holy the Jewry; Thomas Palmer, the Warden church touching the blesful Sacrament the the Mynors; Robert Chamberlaine, Prior
wyne, which were there before the sacramentall
wordes were spoken. How belcue this
Article Holy Churche hath determined, that and man acursed afore God.
enery Chrysten man lyuing here bodyly vppon Anon the Archby-hoppe called for Masse-- earth, ought shriuen priest ordeyned boke, and caused those prelates and doc by the church, may come him How toures sweare there vpon, that everye man
fele thys Article 2–Christ ordeyned Saint Peter the apostle his vicar here earth, whose see the holy church Rome; and graunted that the same power which
gaue vinto Peter, shuld successie 1'eters successours, which we call now popes Rome;
shoulde faythfullye doo lys oftyce and dewtye that daye and that neyther fauer nor feare, loue nor hate the one partye nor the other, any thing shuld ther witnessed, spoken, done, but according the trueth, they wold answere before God and all the world at the
whose speciall power churches particular, day dome. Than were the two forseyd no
be ordeyned prelates, archbishops, byshops,
parsons, curates, and other degrees more, unto
whom Christen men ought obeye after the
lawes the churche Rome. Thys the otherwise knewe before they shuld regester determinacion holy church how seleye this and thys dissinnulation was but colour Article Holy Church hath determined, that their mischeues before the ignoraunt multytude.
meritoryous Christen man pil —Consydre herin (geotyl reader) what this
grymage holy places, and there specially worship holy relyques and ymages and saintes, apostles, martirs, confessours, and other saintes besydes, approued the church Rome: howe fele thys Artycle
wicked generacion
And the good lord Cobham had red oner thys moost wretched Wryting, maruelled
forth before them and lefetchaunte
reatly their madde ignoraunce: but that consydered agayne, that God had gouen
The latter Examinacion September
the Lord 25.
Cobham,
them ouer for theyr unbeleues sake, into moost depe errours and blindnesse soule. Agayne,
perseyued therby, that theyr yttermost ma lyce was purposed against him, howsoeucr
Than sayd the Archbyshoppe vnto hym “Lord Cobham, aduysed sure)
ter, and Benet the bishop Bangor, called vnto him his counsell and his officers, with
Kempe, doctour
mayneth the sacrament the aulter, from thens forth, materyall breade, nor materiali
shuld eyther said done: these, with great sort more pryestes, monks, channons,
friers, parish-clarkes, belringers, and pardoners, disdainca him with innumerable mockes and scornes, rekening him horrible heretik,
taries sworne also wryt and witnes the wordes and processe that ther shuld vttered
both parties, and saye their mindes (if they
and how farre wyde from God: for they were than,
him among them, lambe among wolues, his Examinacion and Auswere.
the just feare are they yet
this daye. —After that cam Robert Morley knight, the Tower, and brought with him the good lord Cobham, there leauing
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the woordes and processe which we had vnto
}. vppon Saturdaye last past in the Chapter
Paules, proces long ouse of which were now to
to be rehearsed agayne: I sayd vnto you than,
that ye were acursed for your contumacy and disobedience to holy Church, thinking that ye
Mathew, Marke, and Luke, and also
the first Epistle Saint Paul the Corinthi ans, chap.
Then asked the Archbyshoppe, “If be lcued that were breade after the consecra
cion sacramentall wordes spoken ouer it. ” shulde with mekenes haue desired your absolu The lord Cobham sayd, beleue that the
cion. ” Than spake the lorde Cobham with a most cherefull contenaunce, and sayd, God sayth by
e wold haue asked it: and yet I do the same, of Christ. ’ The lorde Cobham said than one if ye will humblye desyre it in due forme and Master Johan Whighthead, ‘You said ones
horryble synnes, good Lord I aske the mercy; and therwith wepingly he stode up againe, and sayd with a mighty voice, Lo, good people,
for the breaking God's lawe, and his great commaundements, they never yet cursed me;
but for theyr owne law. cs and tradicions most cruelly they handle both me and other men and therefore both they and theyr law. cs,
the promes God, shall vitely destroied.
his holye prophet, Maledicam benedictionbus
vestris, which is as much as to say, I shall curse,
wher as you blesse. —The Archbisshop made death lyfe, whych nowe glorified hea than as though he had continued for the thys uen. '--Than sayd one the doctors lawe, tale, and not heard him, saying, ‘Sir, at that “After the sacramentall wordes vitered, tyme I gentilly proferd to haue assoyled you if there remaineth breade but the onely body
maner, as holy Church hath ordeined. ' Than
sayd the lord Cobham, Naye, forsoth, wyll I
not, for I neuer yet trespassed against you, and
therefore I will not do it: and with that he
kneled downe on the pauentent, holding vphys
bandes towards heauen, and sayed, I shryue
me here vnto the my etermall lyuynge God, that
in my frayle youth I offended the (Lorde) most
greuously in pryde, wrath, and glottony, in
couetousnes and in lechery. Many men haue
I hurt in mine anger, and done manye other Whether were materiall breade after the
At this the Archbishop and hys companye bread. shall proue
were not lytle blemyshed; notwithstanding Chryst dwelling here vppon the earth, had toke stomack vnto him agayn, after certain him both Godhede and manhead, and had the
wordes had excuse theyr Tyrannye, and
examined the lorde Cobham of his Christen
Beleue. Whereunto the lorde Cobham made
thys godly Answere. beleue fullye and fayth
fullye the vinyuersall lawes God; beleue
that true which conteyned the holy
sacred Scriptures the Byble; finally, be
leue all that my Lorde God wolde shuldo
beleue. "—Than demaunded the Archbishop
Answere the Byll which and the clergy consecration, plaine words expressed had sent him into the Tower the day afore, one your owne doctors [Gelasius contra maner Determynacion the Church con /Eutychen, writing against Eutyches, which cerning the Articles whereof was accused, saith Like the selfe same Sacraments doe specially for the Sacrament the Alter, how passe the operation the Holy Ghost, into he beleued therein — Wherunto the lord diuine nature, and yet notwithstanding keepe
Cobhain said, That with that Byll had no thing do but this was his Beleue concern
the propertie still their former nature so, that principall mystery declareth remaine one true, and perfect Christ, &c. —Than smyled
ing the Sacrament, That his Lord and Sauer
Jesus Christ, sytting hys last Supper with his they yohe one vppon other, that the people
most dere disciples, the night before shuld suffer, toke bread his hand, and geuing thanks his eternal Father, blessed brake and
gaue vnto them, saying, ‘Take vnto ye, ‘and eate therof this my body which “shall betraid for you, this here after my
shulde judge hym taken greate heresye and wyth great bragge diuerse them sayde,
foule IIeresy.
Than asked the Archbishop, ‘What breade
was And the Doctours also inquired hym, whether were materyall not The
remembrance. ’ This thoroughly beleue lord Cobham sayd unto them, the Scriptures for this Faith am taught the Gospell maketh mencion this woorde matery
Sacrament the Aulter Christs very body fourme breade, the same that was born the Virgin Mary, done the crosse, dead,
and buried, and that the third day arose from
unto me the castell Coulynge, that the sacred Host was not Chrystes body; but helde than against you, and proued that herein was his body, though the Seculars and Friers could not therin agree, but helde yohe one against another that opinyon these were uly woordes than remembre it. ”—Than shouted sort them together, and cryed with great noyse, “We say that God's body. ” And dyuerse them asked hym great anger,
consecracyon not? Than loked the lord Cobham earnestly vppon the Archbishop, and sayde, belove surely that Chrystes bod
fourme breade; sir, beleue not you . . . } And the Archbishoppe sayd, ‘Yes may
Than asked him the Doctours, Whether
were onely Christes body after the consecration
priest, and sayd vnto them,
bread not And both Christs body and
inuisible godhead couered under that manhead, which was only visible and seane him
the Sacrament the Aulter Christes very body and very bread also, beleue the breade the thyng that we see with our eyes, the bodye Christ (whiche his flesh and his blood) there vnder hydde, and not seane, but
fayth. And moreouer, prove that
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and therefore my Faith hath nothing to do therwith : but thys I say and beleue that
very antichrists, obstinately set against his holy
law and will. The lawes that haue made
Christes bodye and breade; for Chryst sayde
the syxt Johans Gospell, Ego sum panis vayne glory and abhominable couwetousness.
rivus, qui Carlo descendi; which came downe from heauen am the lyuing, and not the dead bread: therefore say now again, like
said afore, our Lord Jesus Chryst very God and very Man, the most blessed Sacrament the Aulter, Chrystes very body
This they said, was exceading Herisy (and that great fume) not beleue the deter mination holy Church.
Than the Archbishop asked him, what thought Holy Church He said vnto him: My beleue that holy Church the nombre them which shall saued, whom Christ the head. Of this Church one part Hea uen with Christ, other purgatory (you say) and the third here aerth. This later part standeth thre degrees, knighthode, priesthode, and the comunalte, saide afore
and breade. —Than seyd they voyce, “It Heresye. "
One the Byshoppes stode
and said, “What, heresye many fest,
saye that breade after the sacramentall wordes ones spoken, but Chrystes body one
Apostle was, am sure, wyse you
nowe, and more godlye learned. And called breade, wrytting the Corinthians, The
breade that we breake,’ sayth he, “is not the artaking the body Christ? ” Lo, calleth bread and not Christes body, but meane
whereby we receyve Christes body. Than sayd
sent you Wrytting concerning the Faith thys Blessed Sacrament clearly determined
Than saide the Archbishop vnto him, “Can tell me who this Church The lord
-with one
and by,
ly. ’ The lord Cobham said, Sainct Paule the plainly the Confessyon my Beleue.
they agayne, Paule must otherwise vnder
standed. For surely heresye saye
that breade after the consecration, but
onely Chrystes body. The lord Cobham asked, Chryst sayth also the same selfe chapter howe they coulde inake good that sentence Math. ‘That lyke the tree knowue theirs? They answered him thus, For his fruit, false prophet his works, against the determination holy Churche. Than appeare they neuer glorious. ” #. that sayde the Archbishop vnto him, ‘Sir Johan we
the judicium judicate, Whan we know the thing holy doctours. ' Than sayd again unto him, true, we may judge and not offende. “I knowe none holyer than Christ and his For Dauid sayth also, Rectejudicate filli homi
apostles. And for that determinacion, num, “Judge rightly always children
men. ” Christ, proud su
wote none theyrs, for standeth not And for your superiorite, were
with the Scriptures, but manifestly against them. the Churches, saye hath bene hers onely sins she receiued the greate
poyson worldly possessions, and not afore. ' Than asked hym, they stoppe hys mouth
should meke ministers, and
which Chryst hath forbidden, and the good judge cion the Church? And said vnto them, No ments, which he hath commaunded haue.
therwith, he beleued not the determina
forsooth, for no God. all our crede
but thryse mencioned concerning beleue
God the Father, God the Sonne, God the
Holy Goost. The Byrthe, the Death, the Bu ways are the learned scolers Wickleue. riall, the Resurrection and Ascensyon Christe Unto whome the lord Cobham thus answer hath none for beleue but hym. Neyther ed, well sophistried you forsoth; pre yet hath the Churche, the Sacramentes, the posterouse are your judgements euer more. Forgyuenes Synne, the latter Resurrection, For the prophet Esay saith, “Yejudge nor yet the Lyfe Everlasting, any other than good, and good yll. ’ And therefore the same
the Holy Goost. prophet concludeth, “That your wayes are not Than sayd one the Lawiers, Tush, that Gods ways, nor Gods wayes your wayes. ” And was but worde office. But what your for that vertuouse man Wickleue, whose
true. All that grounded vppon them, be neuer absteyned from synne. But syns leue throughly. For, know, God's plea learned therein feare my Lord God, hath
your open dedes doth shew but are Than sayde doctour Walden again yet unts
beleue concerning holy Church? ' The lord Cob
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highly disdayne; shall saye ham answered, My beleue (as sayde afore) here for my part both before God and man, that all the Scriptures the Sacred Bible are that before knew that dispised doctrine his,
are nothing his glorye; but onely for your
Cobham answered, Yea truly can
Than said doctour Walden the prior the
Carmelites, ‘It doubte vnto you who there For Christ sayth Math. Nolite judicare, Presume judge man. here for bidden the judgment your neighbour bro ther, inoche more the judgment your supe
the Church Rome, our mother, and
left behind ye. And Johan hath this text, Operilus credite, Beleue you the outward doings. And another place Johan, Justum
rior. ” The lord Cobham made him thys answer,
o, make here difference judgements: put
periours.
Then said doctour Walden unto him, “Ye
no diuersite betwene the
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one with you. judgement presumed, and judgement office. swift judges al
youre lordly otherwise, trust, been with me: much
sure that shuld do. But
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241] STATE I W. 1415. —Sir John for [242
hym, “It were not well wyth me, so meny ver tayle behind. As you fryers and monkes tuous men lyuyng, and so many learned men lyke pharisees diuided your outward appa
teaching, the scriptures being also so open, and
the examples of fathers so plenteouse, if I than
had no grace to amende my life till I hearde the
deuell preache. Saint Hierom saith, that he said vnto them all, Christe saith his gos whych seketh suche suspected masters, shall pell, ‘Wo you Scribes and Pharisees, ypo not fynde the mydday lyght, but the midday crites, for close the kingdom heauen deuell. ' The lord Cobham said, Your fathers before men. Neyther entre your selves, the olde Pharisees ascrybed Chrystes miracles nor yet suffre any other that would entre into to Belzebub, and hys doctrine to the deuell. But stop the wayes thereunto with And you as their naturall children haue still your owne tradicions, and therefore are the the same selfjudgment, concerning his faithful houshold Antichrist; will not permit followers. They that rebuke your viciously Gods veryte haue passage, nor yet lyuyng, must nedes be heretykes; and that taught his true ministers, fearing haue must your doctours proue, whan ye haue no your wickedness reproued. But such vayne scriptures to do Than said them all, flatterers vpholde you your mischeues,
To judge you be, we nede farther
thau your owne propre actes.