And the world still goes on
In darkness unending for me?
In darkness unending for me?
Catullus - Stewart - Selections
Selections from Catullus, tr.
into English verse, with an introduction
on the theory of translation, by Mary Stewart.
Catullus, Gaius Valerius. Boston, R. G. Badger [c1915]
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CATULLUS
Translated into English verse with an
Introduction on the theory of Translation
BY MARY STEWART
BOSTON: RICHARD G. BADGER
THE COPP CLARK CO. , LIMITED, TORONTO
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All Rights Reserved
Thb Gorham Press, Boston, U. S. A.
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? To MY Sister
L. S. B.
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? Oh, Sister of mine, so beloved.
Oh, dear heart of my heart, can it be
You are dead, you are gone.
And the world still goes on
In darkness unending for me?
They buried the gold of the sunshine
With the gold of your beautiful hair.
And the blue of the skies
With the blue of your eyes.
Ah, nothing is left that was fair!
And you -- is it well with you. Sister,
You who so loved the breeze and the light.
And the laughter and love
And the glad life above,
Down there all alone in the nightf
Ah, God, is there never an answer?
Cant she hear, though in anguish I cry?
Little soul, fair and white.
Lost and lone in the night --
Dear God, can such loveliness die?
Then glad like a flower in the spring time.
With the gold of the sun in her hair.
And the blue of the skies
In her wonderful eyes.
Is she waiting for me somewhere?
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An Experiment in Translation 9
Selections from Catullus
I 29
// 30
/// 31
V 32-
VII 33
VIII 34
IX 35
XIII 36
XIV 37
XXVI 38
XXVII 39
XXX 40
XXXI 41
XXXIV 42
XXXV 44
XXXVIII 46
XLIII 47
XLVI 48
XLVIII 49
L 50
LI 51
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LII 53
LXV 54
LXVIII A 55
LXX 58
LXXII 59
LXXIII 60
LXXVI 61
LXX XVII and LXXV 63
LXX XVI 64
XCII 65
XCVI 66
XCIX 67
CI 68
CII 69
CVII 70
CIX 71
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An Experiment in Translation
IN offering new translations of the classics the
translator anticipates the critics Why-did-
you-do-it? by hastening to explain himself.
Hence the prologue. In fact, no one can
play much with translating w^ithout pretty seri-
ously asking himself why he does it, and thereupon
finding himself hopelessly tangled in a mesh of
questions about the place of translations and the art
of translating.
There can no longer be any question about the
place of translations in modern literature. All an-
cient literature and all modern, in any tongue save
English, are accessible to the great mass of people
only in translation. We may talk as we please
about the beauty of the original and the impossibility
of adequate translation, but the fact remains that for
most of us it is translation or nothing. Nor is this
altogether regrettable. Even if it were possible for
all of us to learn Latin and Greek well enough to
read the great epics, it would scarcely be worth
while for all of us to do it. Though the scholar
has his place, and a very necessary one, no language
9
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And the world still goes on
In darkness unending for me?
They buried the gold of the sunshine
With the gold of your beautiful hair.
And the blue of the skies
With the blue of your eyes.
Ah, nothing is left that was fair!
And you -- is it well with you. Sister,
You who so loved the breeze and the light.
And the laughter and love
And the glad life above,
Down there all alone in the nightf
Ah, God, is there never an answer?
Cant she hear, though in anguish I cry?
Little soul, fair and white.
Lost and lone in the night --
Dear God, can such loveliness die?
Then glad like a flower in the spring time.
With the gold of the sun in her hair.
And the blue of the skies
In her wonderful eyes.
Is she waiting for me somewhere?
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An Experiment in Translation 9
Selections from Catullus
I 29
// 30
/// 31
V 32-
VII 33
VIII 34
IX 35
XIII 36
XIV 37
XXVI 38
XXVII 39
XXX 40
XXXI 41
XXXIV 42
XXXV 44
XXXVIII 46
XLIII 47
XLVI 48
XLVIII 49
L 50
LI 51
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LII 53
LXV 54
LXVIII A 55
LXX 58
LXXII 59
LXXIII 60
LXXVI 61
LXX XVII and LXXV 63
LXX XVI 64
XCII 65
XCVI 66
XCIX 67
CI 68
CII 69
CVII 70
CIX 71
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An Experiment in Translation
IN offering new translations of the classics the
translator anticipates the critics Why-did-
you-do-it? by hastening to explain himself.
Hence the prologue. In fact, no one can
play much with translating w^ithout pretty seri-
ously asking himself why he does it, and thereupon
finding himself hopelessly tangled in a mesh of
questions about the place of translations and the art
of translating.
There can no longer be any question about the
place of translations in modern literature. All an-
cient literature and all modern, in any tongue save
English, are accessible to the great mass of people
only in translation. We may talk as we please
about the beauty of the original and the impossibility
of adequate translation, but the fact remains that for
most of us it is translation or nothing. Nor is this
altogether regrettable. Even if it were possible for
all of us to learn Latin and Greek well enough to
read the great epics, it would scarcely be worth
while for all of us to do it. Though the scholar
has his place, and a very necessary one, no language
9
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can ever mean to us what our own language does,
not even a modern, living tongue; and. If this is
true of a living tongue, what is to be said of a dead
one? Even the scholar who knows his Greek so
well that he reads Homer Instead of translating
him, and has an ear so atuned to the sonorous
phrase that he enjoys Its music, must still read the
stirring epic as an English man, not as a Greek ; as a
modern, not as an ancient. And however rich his
knowledge of etymology, it cannot fuse with life
the dead word of a dead people. Language is a
living, growing thing, quivering, glowing, moving,
connected by a thousand-thousand invisible capil-
laries with the life of today. For the English per-
son the English language has a subtlety of meaning
and a richness of connotation that no other tongue
can possibly have. It Is bound up with his exper-
ience, not only racial but personal. The power of
a word Is measured by myriad Influences, drawn
from every experience with which it may be as-
sociated in the mind of the individual. And the
beauty of literature is so dependent on this unex-
pressed meaning of word and phrase we dare to say
no original in a dead tongue could give to an English
ear the aesthetic pleasure of a good translation.
A good translation -- "Aye there's the rub. "
Mathew Arnold in his scholarly essay, "On Trans-
lating Homer," has set up a standard of translation
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which, according to Mr. Calvin Winter (In The
Bookman for March and April, 1911), has been
guilty of fastening a lot of bad translations. Mr.
Arnold says that the first requisite of a good transla-
tion is faithfulness to the original. With this we
heartily agree. It is when he defines his criterion
for faithfulness that we must differ from him.
There has been current for a long time the idea that
a good translation is one which would afEect the
English reader as the Greek or Latin original af-
fected a Greek or a Roman. As Mr. Arnold points
out, this is an impossible standard, because nobody
knows just how the original affected the ancients.
However, we feel that the test Mr. Arnold him-
self imposes is scarcely less possible. To his mind
the taste of the scholar is the test -- the good trans-
lation the one that affects this Greek or Latin scholar
as the original does. The man who knows his
Greek is the judge. Mr. Winter points out the
fallacy of this criterion as follows: "It is difficult to
imagine any method for getting away more com-
pletely from the original spirit of the Iliad than to
so translate as to have It give to the average modern
reader the same impression that it makes upon the
typical middle-aged professor of dead languages. "
These standards, he farther adds, "are precisely
those which tend to develop a school of glorified
cribs. . . . The translations that live, the transla-
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tions that we like to think of as a part of English
literature, are of a different sort. They are from
the pen of writers who have made their names
glorious for something besides the echoing of other
men's thoughts, and who have insisted, even in their
translations, on remaining original. . . . Transla-
tions have a vitality and a vogue in direct ratio to
the writer's spirit of independence. " This judg-
ment of Mr. Winter is substantiated by some of the
best translations in English. They have been made
by men who were literary artists as well as scholars.
Let us discuss for a moment what we mean by a
good translation. Obviously the first aim of the
translator is to make a faithful translation. On this
point there is practically a general agreement. A
faithful translation is one that is true to the idea
and spirit of the original rather than to the word
and letter. The method of the translator will vary
according to the subject matter and the purpose for
which the translation is intended. There are two
kinds of literature: (a) the literature of informa-
tion and (b) the literature of beauty. Plainly, in
the translation of the first class the ideal is one of
accuracy and clearness. This, of course, is com-
paratively easy, presupposing, on the part of the
translator, merely a knowledge of the foreign lan-
guage (and, we may add incidentally, of his own),
and a thorough understanding of the subject matter
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in hand. The translation of the second class -- pure
literature -- involves an additional quality which, for
want of a better term, we may call literary sensi-
bility. The translator must make not merely a
transcript of the idea but a species of belles lettres,
a sort of new creative thing in itself. The function
of pure literature is to please and interest no less
by its form than by its content. Hence a good trans-
lation of a masterpiece must be in itself a kind of
masterpiece. "As it takes a thief to catch a thief,
so it takes a poet to catch a poet. "
We approach any translation from three points
of view -- first, the purely scholarly view point whose
ideal is accuracy and thoroughness. This seeks a
pretty literal translation, one that will keep the
facts as straight as possible, and it is the primary
essential of all good translation. Second, the schol-
arly-literary view point, which aims not only at an
accurate transcript of ideas but at an appreciation
of them in relation to their own setting. This
means keeping the "flavor" of the original, trans-
lating one-self, so to speak, into the past rather
than the original into the present. This too, is an
essential quality of a good translation. And third,
the purely literary view point, which would make
of the original a "new original," a bit of real litera-
ture which, while true to its source, is equally true
to its end; that is, faithful to the original and sig-
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nificant to the reader. This last viewpoint involves
and implies the other tw^o. The needs of scholar-
ship may often go no farther than accurate trans-
lation and appreciative interpretation, but w^ithout
the literary "touch," they w\\\ fall short of true
translation. For herein lies the life-giving property
that must animate the solid framework of scholarly
information, and color and illuminate the grace and
form of scholarly appreciation. This is the trans-
lator's contribution to literature. The scholar's
work merely goes to pile the shelves of fact, to
heap up the raw material out of which real litera-
ture is made.
What are the ear marks of a good translation?
( I ) It must be interesting to the generation for
which it is written, must speak straight from the
heart, direct and spontaneous, in the idiomatic Eng-
lish of the day, bearing no halting syntactical hy-
brids; (2) it must be true to the original in fact
and in spirit, carrying the same dignity, nobility,
grace, or whimsicality that the original bore. And
for this end a literal translation is often the last
thing wanted, either of word or of form. For ex-
ample -- well-bred Romans might have listened with
equanimity to certain words that shock a well-bred
American. To translate literally the word that was
in the original would be to translate the shock
which was not in the original; and this would be
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faithless. Again certain figures, allusions, and the
like, full of significance to the people for whom
they were written may tall quite empty on a modern
ear. It is for the translator, then, to find for these
adequate substitutes or paraphrases as far as po-i
sible. For example, Catullus LI I reads literally --
"What reason is there, Catullus, why you should
delay dying; vile Nonius is in the curule chair,
Vatinius sw^ears by the consulate, why then, Catul-
lus, do you delay dying? " In translation, a mean-
ingless and offensive lot of words truly, but in the
original, pointed, trenchent, clever. Catullus used
the specific names Nonius and Vatinius because to
the ears of his generation concrete examples of de-
bauchery and bribery illustrated in the names of
prominent citizens were far more vij^orous than ab-
stract terms. But these names mean nothing to us.
The abstract qualities say far more. So we have
translated the lines as follows -- true to the spirit, we
maintain, and certainly clearer to the reader.
Why wait for deaths Catullus, zvhy not be
done ivith life?
Corruption in the Curule chair, and in
The Senate strife.
Venality is honored, and bribery is rife.
Why wait for death, Catullus, why not be
done with life?
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1 tEvmsilatth bv
jWarp Stetoart
UC-NRLF
B 3 MAT Tfl3
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CATULLUS
Translated into English verse with an
Introduction on the theory of Translation
BY MARY STEWART
BOSTON: RICHARD G. BADGER
THE COPP CLARK CO. , LIMITED, TORONTO
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All Rights Reserved
Thb Gorham Press, Boston, U. S. A.
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? To MY Sister
L. S. B.
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? Oh, Sister of mine, so beloved.
Oh, dear heart of my heart, can it be
You are dead, you are gone.
And the world still goes on
In darkness unending for me?
They buried the gold of the sunshine
With the gold of your beautiful hair.
And the blue of the skies
With the blue of your eyes.
Ah, nothing is left that was fair!
And you -- is it well with you. Sister,
You who so loved the breeze and the light.
And the laughter and love
And the glad life above,
Down there all alone in the nightf
Ah, God, is there never an answer?
Cant she hear, though in anguish I cry?
Little soul, fair and white.
Lost and lone in the night --
Dear God, can such loveliness die?
Then glad like a flower in the spring time.
With the gold of the sun in her hair.
And the blue of the skies
In her wonderful eyes.
Is she waiting for me somewhere?
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An Experiment in Translation 9
Selections from Catullus
I 29
// 30
/// 31
V 32-
VII 33
VIII 34
IX 35
XIII 36
XIV 37
XXVI 38
XXVII 39
XXX 40
XXXI 41
XXXIV 42
XXXV 44
XXXVIII 46
XLIII 47
XLVI 48
XLVIII 49
L 50
LI 51
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LII 53
LXV 54
LXVIII A 55
LXX 58
LXXII 59
LXXIII 60
LXXVI 61
LXX XVII and LXXV 63
LXX XVI 64
XCII 65
XCVI 66
XCIX 67
CI 68
CII 69
CVII 70
CIX 71
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An Experiment in Translation
IN offering new translations of the classics the
translator anticipates the critics Why-did-
you-do-it? by hastening to explain himself.
Hence the prologue. In fact, no one can
play much with translating w^ithout pretty seri-
ously asking himself why he does it, and thereupon
finding himself hopelessly tangled in a mesh of
questions about the place of translations and the art
of translating.
There can no longer be any question about the
place of translations in modern literature. All an-
cient literature and all modern, in any tongue save
English, are accessible to the great mass of people
only in translation. We may talk as we please
about the beauty of the original and the impossibility
of adequate translation, but the fact remains that for
most of us it is translation or nothing. Nor is this
altogether regrettable. Even if it were possible for
all of us to learn Latin and Greek well enough to
read the great epics, it would scarcely be worth
while for all of us to do it. Though the scholar
has his place, and a very necessary one, no language
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And the world still goes on
In darkness unending for me?
They buried the gold of the sunshine
With the gold of your beautiful hair.
And the blue of the skies
With the blue of your eyes.
Ah, nothing is left that was fair!
And you -- is it well with you. Sister,
You who so loved the breeze and the light.
And the laughter and love
And the glad life above,
Down there all alone in the nightf
Ah, God, is there never an answer?
Cant she hear, though in anguish I cry?
Little soul, fair and white.
Lost and lone in the night --
Dear God, can such loveliness die?
Then glad like a flower in the spring time.
With the gold of the sun in her hair.
And the blue of the skies
In her wonderful eyes.
Is she waiting for me somewhere?
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An Experiment in Translation 9
Selections from Catullus
I 29
// 30
/// 31
V 32-
VII 33
VIII 34
IX 35
XIII 36
XIV 37
XXVI 38
XXVII 39
XXX 40
XXXI 41
XXXIV 42
XXXV 44
XXXVIII 46
XLIII 47
XLVI 48
XLVIII 49
L 50
LI 51
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LII 53
LXV 54
LXVIII A 55
LXX 58
LXXII 59
LXXIII 60
LXXVI 61
LXX XVII and LXXV 63
LXX XVI 64
XCII 65
XCVI 66
XCIX 67
CI 68
CII 69
CVII 70
CIX 71
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An Experiment in Translation
IN offering new translations of the classics the
translator anticipates the critics Why-did-
you-do-it? by hastening to explain himself.
Hence the prologue. In fact, no one can
play much with translating w^ithout pretty seri-
ously asking himself why he does it, and thereupon
finding himself hopelessly tangled in a mesh of
questions about the place of translations and the art
of translating.
There can no longer be any question about the
place of translations in modern literature. All an-
cient literature and all modern, in any tongue save
English, are accessible to the great mass of people
only in translation. We may talk as we please
about the beauty of the original and the impossibility
of adequate translation, but the fact remains that for
most of us it is translation or nothing. Nor is this
altogether regrettable. Even if it were possible for
all of us to learn Latin and Greek well enough to
read the great epics, it would scarcely be worth
while for all of us to do it. Though the scholar
has his place, and a very necessary one, no language
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can ever mean to us what our own language does,
not even a modern, living tongue; and. If this is
true of a living tongue, what is to be said of a dead
one? Even the scholar who knows his Greek so
well that he reads Homer Instead of translating
him, and has an ear so atuned to the sonorous
phrase that he enjoys Its music, must still read the
stirring epic as an English man, not as a Greek ; as a
modern, not as an ancient. And however rich his
knowledge of etymology, it cannot fuse with life
the dead word of a dead people. Language is a
living, growing thing, quivering, glowing, moving,
connected by a thousand-thousand invisible capil-
laries with the life of today. For the English per-
son the English language has a subtlety of meaning
and a richness of connotation that no other tongue
can possibly have. It Is bound up with his exper-
ience, not only racial but personal. The power of
a word Is measured by myriad Influences, drawn
from every experience with which it may be as-
sociated in the mind of the individual. And the
beauty of literature is so dependent on this unex-
pressed meaning of word and phrase we dare to say
no original in a dead tongue could give to an English
ear the aesthetic pleasure of a good translation.
A good translation -- "Aye there's the rub. "
Mathew Arnold in his scholarly essay, "On Trans-
lating Homer," has set up a standard of translation
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which, according to Mr. Calvin Winter (In The
Bookman for March and April, 1911), has been
guilty of fastening a lot of bad translations. Mr.
Arnold says that the first requisite of a good transla-
tion is faithfulness to the original. With this we
heartily agree. It is when he defines his criterion
for faithfulness that we must differ from him.
There has been current for a long time the idea that
a good translation is one which would afEect the
English reader as the Greek or Latin original af-
fected a Greek or a Roman. As Mr. Arnold points
out, this is an impossible standard, because nobody
knows just how the original affected the ancients.
However, we feel that the test Mr. Arnold him-
self imposes is scarcely less possible. To his mind
the taste of the scholar is the test -- the good trans-
lation the one that affects this Greek or Latin scholar
as the original does. The man who knows his
Greek is the judge. Mr. Winter points out the
fallacy of this criterion as follows: "It is difficult to
imagine any method for getting away more com-
pletely from the original spirit of the Iliad than to
so translate as to have It give to the average modern
reader the same impression that it makes upon the
typical middle-aged professor of dead languages. "
These standards, he farther adds, "are precisely
those which tend to develop a school of glorified
cribs. . . . The translations that live, the transla-
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tions that we like to think of as a part of English
literature, are of a different sort. They are from
the pen of writers who have made their names
glorious for something besides the echoing of other
men's thoughts, and who have insisted, even in their
translations, on remaining original. . . . Transla-
tions have a vitality and a vogue in direct ratio to
the writer's spirit of independence. " This judg-
ment of Mr. Winter is substantiated by some of the
best translations in English. They have been made
by men who were literary artists as well as scholars.
Let us discuss for a moment what we mean by a
good translation. Obviously the first aim of the
translator is to make a faithful translation. On this
point there is practically a general agreement. A
faithful translation is one that is true to the idea
and spirit of the original rather than to the word
and letter. The method of the translator will vary
according to the subject matter and the purpose for
which the translation is intended. There are two
kinds of literature: (a) the literature of informa-
tion and (b) the literature of beauty. Plainly, in
the translation of the first class the ideal is one of
accuracy and clearness. This, of course, is com-
paratively easy, presupposing, on the part of the
translator, merely a knowledge of the foreign lan-
guage (and, we may add incidentally, of his own),
and a thorough understanding of the subject matter
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in hand. The translation of the second class -- pure
literature -- involves an additional quality which, for
want of a better term, we may call literary sensi-
bility. The translator must make not merely a
transcript of the idea but a species of belles lettres,
a sort of new creative thing in itself. The function
of pure literature is to please and interest no less
by its form than by its content. Hence a good trans-
lation of a masterpiece must be in itself a kind of
masterpiece. "As it takes a thief to catch a thief,
so it takes a poet to catch a poet. "
We approach any translation from three points
of view -- first, the purely scholarly view point whose
ideal is accuracy and thoroughness. This seeks a
pretty literal translation, one that will keep the
facts as straight as possible, and it is the primary
essential of all good translation. Second, the schol-
arly-literary view point, which aims not only at an
accurate transcript of ideas but at an appreciation
of them in relation to their own setting. This
means keeping the "flavor" of the original, trans-
lating one-self, so to speak, into the past rather
than the original into the present. This too, is an
essential quality of a good translation. And third,
the purely literary view point, which would make
of the original a "new original," a bit of real litera-
ture which, while true to its source, is equally true
to its end; that is, faithful to the original and sig-
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nificant to the reader. This last viewpoint involves
and implies the other tw^o. The needs of scholar-
ship may often go no farther than accurate trans-
lation and appreciative interpretation, but w^ithout
the literary "touch," they w\\\ fall short of true
translation. For herein lies the life-giving property
that must animate the solid framework of scholarly
information, and color and illuminate the grace and
form of scholarly appreciation. This is the trans-
lator's contribution to literature. The scholar's
work merely goes to pile the shelves of fact, to
heap up the raw material out of which real litera-
ture is made.
What are the ear marks of a good translation?
( I ) It must be interesting to the generation for
which it is written, must speak straight from the
heart, direct and spontaneous, in the idiomatic Eng-
lish of the day, bearing no halting syntactical hy-
brids; (2) it must be true to the original in fact
and in spirit, carrying the same dignity, nobility,
grace, or whimsicality that the original bore. And
for this end a literal translation is often the last
thing wanted, either of word or of form. For ex-
ample -- well-bred Romans might have listened with
equanimity to certain words that shock a well-bred
American. To translate literally the word that was
in the original would be to translate the shock
which was not in the original; and this would be
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faithless. Again certain figures, allusions, and the
like, full of significance to the people for whom
they were written may tall quite empty on a modern
ear. It is for the translator, then, to find for these
adequate substitutes or paraphrases as far as po-i
sible. For example, Catullus LI I reads literally --
"What reason is there, Catullus, why you should
delay dying; vile Nonius is in the curule chair,
Vatinius sw^ears by the consulate, why then, Catul-
lus, do you delay dying? " In translation, a mean-
ingless and offensive lot of words truly, but in the
original, pointed, trenchent, clever. Catullus used
the specific names Nonius and Vatinius because to
the ears of his generation concrete examples of de-
bauchery and bribery illustrated in the names of
prominent citizens were far more vij^orous than ab-
stract terms. But these names mean nothing to us.
The abstract qualities say far more. So we have
translated the lines as follows -- true to the spirit, we
maintain, and certainly clearer to the reader.
Why wait for deaths Catullus, zvhy not be
done ivith life?
Corruption in the Curule chair, and in
The Senate strife.
Venality is honored, and bribery is rife.
Why wait for death, Catullus, why not be
done with life?
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