= Yea certes with my mind I doe right well espie your minde:
moreouer (I saye) in those children which God shall sende vs, wée
shall as it were, ware yong againe.
moreouer (I saye) in those children which God shall sende vs, wée
shall as it were, ware yong againe.
Erasmus
=Maria. = And before what iudgement seate shall I be arrayned, before
the seuere =Areopagetes= and God will?
=Pam. = Not so, but before the tribunall seate of _Venus_.
=Maria. = Best of al, for they say she is a patient and pitiful
Goddesse.
=Pam. = Say you so, there is not one amongst them all, whose wrath is
more to be feared.
=Ma. = Why, hath she a thunderbolte?
=Pam. = No.
=Maria. = Hath she a thréeforked mase like _Neptune_?
=Pam. = Not so.
=Ma. = Hath she a speare as _Pallas_?
=Pam. = Neyther: but shée is a Goddesse of the Sea.
=Maria. = I come not within hir kingdome.
=Pam. = But she hath a boye.
=Maria. = I feare no boyes.
=Pam. = He is readie to reuenge, and will paye home when he striketh.
=Ma. = And what shall he doe to me?
=Pam. = What shall he doe: the gods fore let him. I will prognosticate
none euill vnto one, whome I beare good will.
=Ma. = Yet tell me I pray you, I will take no conceit of it.
=Pam. = Then will I tell you if you shall disdaine this louer, who
doubtlesse is not vnworthie your loue, verily I beleue, that same boy
(peraduenture at the cōmaundement of his mother) wyll thirle into your
heart a launce embrued with to bad a poyson, wherby you shal set your
affection miserably vppon some hoblout, who shall not loue you any
whit againe.
=Ma. = Marrie that were a plague in déede, of all other most to be
detested. Certes I had rather to die, than to be entangled in the loue
of one which is deformed, & could not finde in his hart to loue me
likewise againe.
=Pam. = But it is not long time, since there was a right notable
example of this euil, which I now speak off, shewed in a certaine yong
damzel.
=Ma. = In what place, and I may be so bold as to ask you?
=Pam. = At the Citie _Aurelia_.
=Ma. = Howe many yeares ago?
=Pam. = Howe many yeares, nay, it is scarse yet ten monethes.
=Ma. = And what was the Maydes name? whereat sticke you?
=Pam. = Nothing. I knewe hir as well as I knewe you.
=Ma. = Why tell you me not hir name then?
=Pam. = Bicause I like not the lucke therof, I had rather she had had
any other name: She had euen the verie name that you haue.
=Ma. = Who was hir father?
=Pam. = He is yet man aliue, and amongst the Lawyers is one of chiefe
estimation, and of substantiall welth.
=Ma. = Tell me his name also.
=Pam. = _Mauritius. _
=Ma. = His surname.
=Pam. = His surname was _Aglaus_.
=Ma. = Liueth the mother yet?
=Pam. = She departed of late.
=Ma. = Of what disease died shée?
=Pam. = Of what disease, quoth you, for méere sorrow & heauinesse. And
the father himselfe albeit he is a man of a strong nature scaped very
narowly.
=Ma. = And may I learne at your hand also the name of the mother.
=Pam. = With all mine hart, who is he that knoweth not _Sophrona_. But
what meane you by this questioning? Thinke you that I contriue fables
for you.
=Ma. = Why would I thinke so, that is rather to be suspected in oure
kinde, but tell on, what befell vnto this mayde.
=Pam. = This damzell was come of an honest stock (as I haue said) and
wanted no welth to hir preferment: for bewty and shape of body, also
goodly to beholde, what needeth many words, she was well worthy to
haue lien by a Prince his side. She had a wooer, who earnestly
besought hir good will, a man for personage & bewtie not vnlike hir
self.
=Ma. = And what was his name?
=Pam. = Alas, God blesse me from the luck, hys name also was
_Pamphilus_, when he had done all that he could, and assayed all waies
possible to obtaine hir good will, she still obstinately despised him.
In fine, the yong man pined away with sorrow, and dyed. Not long
after, this wench beganne to dote vppon such a handsome squire, as for
his personage, I might more rightly call an Ape than a mā.
=Ma. = What say you man?
=Pam. = She was so farre fallen in the brakes with him, that I am not
able to expresse.
=Ma. = What, so proper a wench with so vnsightly a péece?
=Pam. = He had a head made like a sugar lofe, the heare thereof growing
as it were by stitches and that knotted, vnkempt, full of scurfe and
nittes, and a good parte of hys scalpe was bared by the disease called
_Alopecia_, his eies sunk into his head, his nosethrils wide & turning
vpwardes, a mouth like an Ouen with rotten téeth, and a stamering
tongue, a scuruy beard, a hunch backe, a belly like a tode, and legges
as right as a paire of horse hāmes.
[Sidenote: Alopecia _is a disease that causeth the heare to pill
off_. ]
=Ma. = Marry sir you describe him to be a very _Thersites_?
[Sidenote: Thersites _a Prince, that came with the Greekes to the
siege of Troye, which in person and condicion was of all other most
deformed_. ]
=Pam. = Nay besides al this, they say, he had but one of his eares.
=Ma. = Peraduenture he had lost the other in some battaile.
=Pam. = No surely, euen in peace.
=Ma. = Who durst be so bolde to doe that?
=Pam. = Who but _Dionysius_ that cutteth of eares at the Pillory.
=Ma. = Wel, it may be yet y^e his substance at home was such as made a
full mendes for all the deformitie that you haue spoken of.
=Pam. = Nay surely: he had vnthriftilye spent all, and ought more than
hee was worth, with this suchen an husbande doth this so goodly a
wench nowe lead hir life.
=Ma. = You haue declared a thing much to be pittied.
=Pam. = Surely it is true, the Goddesse _Nemesis_ woulde so haue it,
that the iniurie of the yong man, whome shée despised might be
requited of hir.
[Sidenote: Nemesis, _the Goddesse of wrath or indignation_. ]
=Ma. = I would rather wish to be destroyed with a thunderbolt out of
hande, than to be yoked with such a mate.
=Pam. = Therfore beware how you prouoke this Ladie, who reuengeth
disdaine, and frame your harte to loue him againe, who loueth you.
=Ma. = If that may suffice (loe) I loue you again.
=Pam. = But I craue that loue at your hand, which should be perpetuall
and to loue me as your owne. I séeke a wife, not a friend.
[Sidenote: Deliberandum est diu, quod statuendum est semel. ]
=Ma. = I know that well inough, but that thing requireth long
deliberation, and much aduisement, which when it is done, cannot be
vndone againe.
=Pam. = I haue deliberated vppon it to long for my part.
=Ma. = Well (I réede you) take héede, least loue who is not the best
counseller beguile you, for men say that loue is blinde.
=Pam. = Nay, that loue hath eyes which springeth vpon iudgement: I doe
not therfore take you to be such a one as you are, bicause I loue
you: but I loue you for that I plainly sée you to be such a one.
=Ma. = Beware I say, you mistake me not, you maye bée ouerséene, if you
had worne the shoe, then you shoulde perceyue where it wringeth.
=Pam. = I must put it in a venture, although by many good tokens I
conceyue a hope of better lucke.
=Ma. = Whye, are you skilfull in signes and tokens, are you become an
Augur?
=Pam. = Yea marry am I.
[Sidenote: _Augurs bee they which by certaine signes in birdes and
beasts descrie things to come. _]
=Ma. = By what Augurall signes I praye you, do you coniecture that it
shal be thus? hath the night Crowe taken hir flight before you?
=Pam. = She flieth for fooles.
=Ma. = What, haue you séene a cowple of Dooues come flying towardes you
on the right hande?
=Pam. = No such thing, but I haue knowne for the space of certaine
yeares the verteous and honest behauiour of your parents, that is a
birde not least to be regarded (I think) to be come of a good stock.
Moreouer, I am not ignorant with what wholesome instructions, and
verteous examples you haue bene traded and brought vp by them. And
truely good education is of more effect than good Parentage. This is
an other signe which moueth me to conceyue a good hope, beside this,
betwene my parents, which I hope I néede not to be ashamed of and
yours, haue (as I suppose) bene, no smal loue and friendship. Yea we
our selues from our biggens (as they say) haue bene brought vp
togither, & not much vnlike one vnto another in nature and
disposition. Now our age, substance, estimation, and bloude are as
well betwéene vs two, as betwéene both our parentes in a maner equall.
Lastly that which in friendship is the chiefe thing, your maners
séemeth not the worste to square vnto my minde and liking, for it maye
bee that a thing is simply and of it selfe right excellent and yet not
apt and méete for some vse. How my maners frameth vnto your minde
againe I knowe not. These, these be the birdes (my Ioy) which putteth
mee in an assured hope, that a coniunction betwéene vs two, shall be
right ioyfull, pleasant, stable, & swéete, so that you could finde in
your hart to sing that song, which I so much desire to beare.
=Maria. = What song is that you would haue me to sing.
=Pam. = I will teach you the tune therof. _Sum tuus_, say you againe,
_Sum tua_.
[Sidenote: _I am thine.
Be thou mine. _]
=Ma. = The song in déede is short, but me thinks it hath a verie long
ende, and much matter dependeth thereon.
=Pam. = What forceth it for the length, so it be pleasant & swéete vnto
you.
=Ma. = I loue you so well that I woulde not haue you doe that, whereof
you should herafter repent & beshrew your self.
=Pa. = I pray you neuer speake of any repentance.
=Ma. = Peraduenture you shoulde otherwise esteme of me, when eyther age
or sicknesse shall chaunge this fourme or fauour.
=Pam. = Why? this body of myne (O my déere) shall not alwayes continue
in this estate, thus prest and lustie, but I respect not so muche this
flourishing and bewtifull house, as I doe him that dwelleth therein.
=Maria. = What meane you by that you speak of him that dwelleth within?
=Pam. = Verily, I meane your well disposed and vertuous minde, whose
beawtie alwayes encreaseth with age.
=Ma. = What, your sight is yet more pleasant than _Linx_, if you can
espie that, through so many couerings.
=Pam.
= Yea certes with my mind I doe right well espie your minde:
moreouer (I saye) in those children which God shall sende vs, wée
shall as it were, ware yong againe.
=Maria. = But in the meane time virginitie is lost.
=Pam. = Truth, in good faith, tell me if you had a goodly orchyarde
plat, whether woulde you with nothing should therein grow but
blossomes, or else had you rather (the blossomes fallen awaye) beholde
your trées fraught and laden with pleasaunt fruite?
=Maria. = Howe sliely he reasoneth.
=Pam. = At the least aunswere me to this: whether is it a better sight
for a Vine to lye vppon the grounde and rot, or the same to embrace a
poale, or an elme, and lode it full with purple grapes?
=Maria. = Now sir aunswere me to this againe, whether is it a more
pleasant sight a Rose trim and milkewhite, yet growing on his stalk,
or the same plucked with the hande, and by little and little withering
awaye?
=Pam. = Certes in mine opinion the rose is the happiest, and commeth to
the better ende, which withereth and dieth in the hande of man,
delighting in the meane while both the eies and nosethrils, than
thother which withereth on the bush, for there muste it néedes wither
also at length, euen as that wine hath better luck which is drunken,
than that which standeth still, and is turned into vinigar. And yet
the flowring beautie of a woman doth not decay forthwith as soone as
she is maried, for I knowe some my selfe, who before they were maried,
were pale colored, faint, and as it were pined away, who by the
friendly felowship of an husband, haue wared so faire, and
welfauoured, that you would think they neuer came to the flower of
their beautie till then.
=Ma. = But for all your saying, virginity is a thing much beloued and
lyked with all men.
=Pam. = I graunt you, a yong woman, a virgine, is a fayre, & goodly
thing, but what by course of kind is more vnseemly thā an old wrinkled
maide: Had not your mother bene contented to lose that flower of hir
virginitie, surely we had not had this flower of your beautie. So that
in case (as I hope) our mariage be not barren, for the losse of one
virgine we shall paye God manye.
=Ma. = But they saye chastitie is a thing wherein God is much
delighted.
=Pam. = And therefore doe I desire to couple my selfe in mariage with a
chast mayden, that with hir I may leade a chaste life. As for our
mariage it shall rather be a mariage of our minds, than of our bodies,
we shall increase vnto Christ, we shall increase vnto the cōmon welth.
How little shall this matrimonie differ frō virginitie? & peraduenture
hereafter we shall so liue togither, as blessed Marie liued with
Joseph, no man cometh at the first to perfection.
=Maria. = What is that I heard you say euen now, must virginity be
violated and lost, therby to learn chastitie?
=Pam. = Whye not, euen as by drinking of wine moderately, we learn by
little and little to forbeare wine vtterlye, which of these two
seemeth vnto thée to be more temperat, he that sitting in the mids of
many daintie dishes, abstaineth from them all, or he which forbeareth
intemperauncie, hauing none occasiō to moue him vnto the same?
=Ma. = I suppose him to haue the more confirmed habite of temperance
whom plentie alwayes prest can not corrupt.
=Pam. = Whether deserueth more the prayse of chastitie, he that
geldeth him selfe, or he which kéeping his members all and sounde
abstaineth from all womans companie?
=Ma. = Verily by my consent the latter shal haue the praise of
chastitie, that other of mad follie.
=Pam. = Why? those which by vowe haue abiured matrimonye doe they not
after a sort gelde themselues?
=Maria. = Verily it séemeth so.
=Pam. = Thus you sée, it is no vertue to forbeare womens companie.
=Maria. = Is it no vertue?
=Pam. = Marke me this, if it were simplye a vertue to forbeare the
companie of a woman, then shoulde it be also a vice to vse the
companie of a woman, but sometime it befalleth that it is sin to
refuse the acte, and a vertue to vse it.
=Ma. = In what case is it so?
=Pam. = In case the husband requireth of his wife the debt of marriage,
euen so often as he shall do it, especially if he requireth it for the
desire of generation.
=Ma. = But what if he be fleshfond and wanton, may she not lawfully
denie it him?
=Pam. = She maye admonish him of his fault and rather gently perswade
him to bridle hys affections, to giue him a flat nay when he
straineth vpon hir, she may not. Albeit I here verie fewe men
complaine of their wyfes vncurtesie this way.
=Ma. = Yet mée thinks libertie is swéete.
=Pam. = Nay rather virginitie is a heauie burthen. I shall be to you a
King, and you shall be to me a Quéene. And eyther of vs shall rule the
familie, as we thinke good, take you thys to be a bondage?
=Ma. = The common sort calleth mariage an halter.
=Pam. = Now on my fayth they are well worthie an halter that so termeth
it. Tell me I praye you is not your soule bounde vnto your body?
=Ma. = I thinke so.
=Pam. = Yea surely euen as a bird vnto hir cage, & yet if ye should
aske him the question, whether he would bée loosed or no, I suppose he
would saye nay. And why so? bicause he is willinglie and gladlie
bounde therevnto.
=Ma. = We haue little to take to neither of vs both.
=Pam. = So much the lesse indaungered to fortune are wee, that little
you shall encrease at home wyth sauing, which as they counteruayleth a
great reuenue, and I abroad with diligence.
=Ma. = An houshold of children bringeth innumerable cares.
=Pam. = On the other side agayne, the same children bringeth infinite
pleasures, and oftentimes requiteth the parentes naturall paines to
the vttermost, with great ouerplusse.
=Ma. = Then to lead a barren life in marriage is a great miserie.
=Pam. = Why are you not now barraine? tell me whether had ye rather
neuer be borne, or borne to die.
=Ma. = Certes I had rather be borne to die.
=Pam. = So that barrainnesse is yet more miserable which neyther hadde,
nor shall haue child, euen as they be more happie which haue alreadie
lyued, then they which neuer haue, nor shall hereafter be borne to
liue.
=Ma. = And what be those, I praye you which neyther are, nor shall be.
=Pam. = For he that cannot finde in his hart to suffer and abide the
chaunges, & chaunces, whervnto all we indifferently be subiect, as
well men of poore estate, as Kings, & Emperours, he is not to dwell
here, let him get him out of this worlde. And yet, whatsoeuer shal
mischaunce vnto vs two, yours shoulde be but the one halfe thereof,
the greater parte I will alwaies take vnto mine owne selfe. So that if
anie good thing doe happen vnto vs oure pleasure shall be dubble if
anye euill betide vs, you shall haue but the one halfe of the griefe,
and I the other. As for my selfe, if God so woulde, it were vnto me a
pleasure, euen to ende my life in your armes.
=Ma. = Men can better sustaine and beare with y^t which chaunceth
according to the common course and rule of nature. For I sée that some
parentes are more troubled wyth their childrens euill manners, than
with their naturall deathes.
=Pam. = To preuent such misfortune, that it happen not vnto vs, it
resteth for the most part in our power.
=Ma. = How so?
=Pam. = For commonly parentes, which bée good and vertuous, haue good &
vertuous children, I meane as concerning their natural disposition,
for doues do not hatch Puthockes: wherefore we will first indeuour to
bée good our selues, and oure next care shall bée, that our children
may euen from the mothers brest, be seasoned with vertuous counsails,
and right opinions, for it skilleth not a little what licour you poure
into a newe vessell at the first. Finallye, we shall prouide that
they may haue euen at home in our house a good example of lyfe to
followe.
=Ma. = Harde it is to bring that to passe that you say.
[Sidenote: Difficiliaque pulchra. _Godly things be harde. _]
=Pam. = No maruaile, for commendable, and good it is. And for that also
are you harde to bée entreated and wonne, the more deficile and harde
it is, the more good will and indeuour shall wée put there vnto.
=Maria. = You shall haue mée a matter soft and plyant, sée you y^t you
do your part in forming and shaping me as you ought.
=Pam. = But in the meane while saye those thrée wordes which I require
of you.
Ma. = Nothing were more easie for me to doe, but wordes be wynged, and
when they be flowen out once doe not retire, I will tell you what were
a better way for vs both. You shall treate with your Parentes and
myne, and with their will and consent let the matter be concluded.
=Pam. = Ah you set me to wooe againe, it is in you, with thrée words to
dispatch the whole matter.
=Ma. = Whether it lyeth in mée so to doe (as you say) I knowe not, for
I am not at liberty. And in olde time mariages were not concluded
without the will & consent of their parents or elders. But howsoeuer
the case be, I suppose our mariage shall bée the more luckie, if it be
made by the authoritie of our parents. And your part it is to seke and
craue the good will, for vs to doe it, it were vnséemelye: virginite
would séeme alwayes to be taken with violence, yea though sometime we
loue the partie most earnestly.
=Pam. = I wil not let to séeke their good will, so that I may alwayes
be in an assurance of your consent.
=Ma. = You néede not doubt thereof, be of good chéere (my _Pamphile_)
=Pam. = You are herein more scrupulus yet then I woulde wish you to be.
=Ma. = Nay marie, waye, and consider you well with your selfe, before,
whervnto you haue set your minde and will. And do not take into your
counsaile, this blind affection borne towardes my person, but rather
reason, for that which affection decerneth is liked for a reasō, but
that which reason auiseth is neuer mislyked.
=Pam. = Certes thou speakest like a wittie wench; wherefore I intende
to followe thy counsayle.
=Ma. = You shall not repent you thereof, but how he sirha there is now
fallen into my minde a doubt, which vexeth mée sore.
=Pam. = Away with all such doubtes for Gods sake.
=Ma. = Why will you haue me marry my selfe to a dead man.
=Pam. = Not so, for I will reuiue againe.
=Maria. = Now, loe you haue voided this doubt, fare yee well my
_Pamphile_.
=Pam. = See you I pray that I may so doe.
=Ma. = I pray God giue you a good night, why fetch you such a sighe
man?
=Pam. = A good night say you? I woulde to God you would vouchsafe to
giue me that, which you wishe mee.
=Ma. = Soft and faire, I pray you your haruest is as yet but in the
greene blade.
=Pam. = Shall I haue nothing of yours wyth me at my departure.
=Ma. = Take this Pomander to chéere your harte wyth.
=Pam. = Yet giue me a kisse withal I pray thee.
=Ma. = I would kéepe my virginitie whole, and vndefiled for you.
=Pam. = Why doth a kisse take ought away from your virginitie?
=Ma. = Would you thinke it well done that I shoulde be frée of kisses
vnto other men.
=Pam. = Nay marrie I would haue my kisses spared for my selfe.
=Ma. = I keepe them for you then. And yet there is an other thing in
y^e way, which maketh me that I dare not at thys time giue you a
kisse.
=Pam. = What is that.
=Ma. = You saye that your soule is alreadie gone well néere altogither
into my body, and a very small parte thereof taryeth behinde in your
owne, so that I feare in time of a kisse, that which remayneth might
happen to sterte out after it, & then were you altogither without a
soule. Haue you therefore my right hande in token of mutuall loue, and
so fare you well. Go you earnestly about your matters. And I for my
part in the meane while, shall pray vnto Christ, that the thing which
you do, may be vnto the ioy and felicitie of vs both. Amen
[Illustration]
* * * * *
Of the yong man and the
_euill disposed woman_.
=Lucrecia. = =Sophronius. =
Iesu mercy my olde louing Frynde _Sophronius_, are you at length come
againe vnto vs? nowe mee thinkes you haue beene awaye euen a worlde
space, Truelye at the first blushe I scarce knewe you.
=Sophronius. = And why so myne olde acquanintaunce _Lucres_?
=Lucres. = Why so? bicause at your departing you had no berd at al,
now you become a handsome beardling. But what is the matter my sweete
harte: for me thinks you are waxed more sterne and graue countenaunced
then to fore you had wont.
=Sophronius. = I would gladly talke with you friendlye in some place
aparte from all companye.
=Lucres. = Why are we not here alone (my luste? )
=Sophronius. = No, let vs go our selues into some place yet more secret
and priuie.
=Lu. = Be it so, let vs go into my inwarde chamber, if ought you list
to doe.
=Sophronius.
