But in how
different
a way from theirs!
Plato - Apology, Charity
Apology
By Plato
Translated by Benjamin Jowett
Socrates' Defense
How you have felt, O men of Athens, at hearing the speeches of my
accusers, I cannot tell; but I know that their persuasive words almost
made me forget who I was - such was the effect of them; and yet they
have hardly spoken a word of truth. But many as their falsehoods were,
there was one of them which quite amazed me; - I mean when they told
you to be upon your guard, and not to let yourselves be deceived by
the force of my eloquence. They ought to have been ashamed of saying
this, because they were sure to be detected as soon as I opened my
lips and displayed my deficiency; they certainly did appear to be
most shameless in saying this, unless by the force of eloquence they
mean the force of truth; for then I do indeed admit that I am eloquent.
But in how different a way from theirs! Well, as I was saying, they
have hardly uttered a word, or not more than a word, of truth; but
you shall hear from me the whole truth: not, however, delivered after
their manner, in a set oration duly ornamented with words and phrases.
No indeed! but I shall use the words and arguments which occur to
me at the moment; for I am certain that this is right, and that at
my time of life I ought not to be appearing before you, O men of Athens,
in the character of a juvenile orator - let no one expect this of
me. And I must beg of you to grant me one favor, which is this - If
you hear me using the same words in my defence which I have been in
the habit of using, and which most of you may have heard in the agora,
and at the tables of the money-changers, or anywhere else, I would
ask you not to be surprised at this, and not to interrupt me. For
I am more than seventy years of age, and this is the first time that
I have ever appeared in a court of law, and I am quite a stranger
to the ways of the place; and therefore I would have you regard me
as if I were really a stranger, whom you would excuse if he spoke
in his native tongue, and after the fashion of his country; - that
I think is not an unfair request. Never mind the manner, which may
or may not be good; but think only of the justice of my cause, and
give heed to that: let the judge decide justly and the speaker speak
truly.
And first, I have to reply to the older charges and to my first accusers,
and then I will go to the later ones. For I have had many accusers,
who accused me of old, and their false charges have continued during
many years; and I am more afraid of them than of Anytus and his associates,
who are dangerous, too, in their own way. But far more dangerous are
these, who began when you were children, and took possession of your
minds with their falsehoods, telling of one Socrates, a wise man,
who speculated about the heaven above, and searched into the earth
beneath, and made the worse appear the better cause. These are the
accusers whom I dread; for they are the circulators of this rumor,
and their hearers are too apt to fancy that speculators of this sort
do not believe in the gods. And they are many, and their charges against
me are of ancient date, and they made them in days when you were impressible
- in childhood, or perhaps in youth - and the cause when heard went
by default, for there was none to answer. And, hardest of all, their
names I do not know and cannot tell; unless in the chance of a comic
poet. But the main body of these slanderers who from envy and malice
have wrought upon you - and there are some of them who are convinced
themselves, and impart their convictions to others - all these, I
say, are most difficult to deal with; for I cannot have them up here,
and examine them, and therefore I must simply fight with shadows in
my own defence, and examine when there is no one who answers. I will
ask you then to assume with me, as I was saying, that my opponents
are of two kinds - one recent, the other ancient; and I hope that
you will see the propriety of my answering the latter first, for these
accusations you heard long before the others, and much oftener.
Well, then, I will make my defence, and I will endeavor in the short
time which is allowed to do away with this evil opinion of me which
you have held for such a long time; and I hope I may succeed, if this
be well for you and me, and that my words may find favor with you.
But I know that to accomplish this is not easy - I quite see the nature
of the task. Let the event be as God wills: in obedience to the law
I make my defence.
I will begin at the beginning, and ask what the accusation is which
has given rise to this slander of me, and which has encouraged Meletus
to proceed against me. What do the slanderers say? They shall be my
prosecutors, and I will sum up their words in an affidavit. "Socrates
is an evil-doer, and a curious person, who searches into things under
the earth and in heaven, and he makes the worse appear the better
cause; and he teaches the aforesaid doctrines to others. " That is
the nature of the accusation, and that is what you have seen yourselves
in the comedy of Aristophanes; who has introduced a man whom he calls
Socrates, going about and saying that he can walk in the air, and
talking a deal of nonsense concerning matters of which I do not pretend
to know either much or little - not that I mean to say anything disparaging
of anyone who is a student of natural philosophy. I should be very
sorry if Meletus could lay that to my charge. But the simple truth
is, O Athenians, that I have nothing to do with these studies. Very
many of those here present are witnesses to the truth of this, and
to them I appeal. Speak then, you who have heard me, and tell your
neighbors whether any of you have ever known me hold forth in few
words or in many upon matters of this sort. . . . You hear their answer.
And from what they say of this you will be able to judge of the truth
of the rest.
As little foundation is there for the report that I am a teacher,
and take money; that is no more true than the other. Although, if
a man is able to teach, I honor him for being paid. There is Gorgias
of Leontium, and Prodicus of Ceos, and Hippias of Elis, who go the
round of the cities, and are able to persuade the young men to leave
their own citizens, by whom they might be taught for nothing, and
come to them, whom they not only pay, but are thankful if they may
be allowed to pay them. There is actually a Parian philosopher residing
in Athens, of whom I have heard; and I came to hear of him in this
way: - I met a man who has spent a world of money on the Sophists,
Callias the son of Hipponicus, and knowing that he had sons, I asked
him: "Callias," I said, "if your two sons were foals or calves, there
would be no difficulty in finding someone to put over them; we should
hire a trainer of horses or a farmer probably who would improve and
perfect them in their own proper virtue and excellence; but as they
are human beings, whom are you thinking of placing over them? Is there
anyone who understands human and political virtue? You must have thought
about this as you have sons; is there anyone? " "There is," he said.
"Who is he? " said I, "and of what country? and what does he charge? "
"Evenus the Parian," he replied; "he is the man, and his charge is
five minae. " Happy is Evenus, I said to myself, if he really has this
wisdom, and teaches at such a modest charge. Had I the same, I should
have been very proud and conceited; but the truth is that I have no
knowledge of the kind.
I dare say, Athenians, that someone among you will reply, "Why is
this, Socrates, and what is the origin of these accusations of you:
for there must have been something strange which you have been doing?
All this great fame and talk about you would never have arisen if
you had been like other men: tell us, then, why this is, as we should
be sorry to judge hastily of you. " Now I regard this as a fair challenge,
and I will endeavor to explain to you the origin of this name of "wise,"
and of this evil fame. Please to attend then. And although some of
you may think I am joking, I declare that I will tell you the entire
truth. Men of Athens, this reputation of mine has come of a certain
sort of wisdom which I possess. If you ask me what kind of wisdom,
I reply, such wisdom as is attainable by man, for to that extent I
am inclined to believe that I am wise; whereas the persons of whom
I was speaking have a superhuman wisdom, which I may fail to describe,
because I have it not myself; and he who says that I have, speaks
falsely, and is taking away my character. And here, O men of Athens,
I must beg you not to interrupt me, even if I seem to say something
extravagant. For the word which I will speak is not mine. I will refer
you to a witness who is worthy of credit, and will tell you about
my wisdom - whether I have any, and of what sort - and that witness
shall be the god of Delphi. You must have known Chaerephon; he was
early a friend of mine, and also a friend of yours, for he shared
in the exile of the people, and returned with you. Well, Chaerephon,
as you know, was very impetuous in all his doings, and he went to
Delphi and boldly asked the oracle to tell him whether - as I was
saying, I must beg you not to interrupt - he asked the oracle to tell
him whether there was anyone wiser than I was, and the Pythian prophetess
answered that there was no man wiser. Chaerephon is dead himself,
but his brother, who is in court, will confirm the truth of this story.
Why do I mention this? Because I am going to explain to you why I
have such an evil name. When I heard the answer, I said to myself,
What can the god mean? and what is the interpretation of this riddle?
for I know that I have no wisdom, small or great. What can he mean
when he says that I am the wisest of men? And yet he is a god and
cannot lie; that would be against his nature. After a long consideration,
I at last thought of a method of trying the question. I reflected
that if I could only find a man wiser than myself, then I might go
to the god with a refutation in my hand. I should say to him, "Here
is a man who is wiser than I am; but you said that I was the wisest. "
Accordingly I went to one who had the reputation of wisdom, and observed
to him - his name I need not mention; he was a politician whom I selected
for examination - and the result was as follows: When I began to talk
with him, I could not help thinking that he was not really wise, although
he was thought wise by many, and wiser still by himself; and I went
and tried to explain to him that he thought himself wise, but was
not really wise; and the consequence was that he hated me, and his
enmity was shared by several who were present and heard me. So I left
him, saying to myself, as I went away: Well, although I do not suppose
that either of us knows anything really beautiful and good, I am better
off than he is - for he knows nothing, and thinks that he knows. I
neither know nor think that I know. In this latter particular, then,
I seem to have slightly the advantage of him. Then I went to another,
who had still higher philosophical pretensions, and my conclusion
was exactly the same. I made another enemy of him, and of many others
besides him.
After this I went to one man after another, being not unconscious
of the enmity which I provoked, and I lamented and feared this: but
necessity was laid upon me - the word of God, I thought, ought to
be considered first. And I said to myself, Go I must to all who appear
to know, and find out the meaning of the oracle. And I swear to you,
Athenians, by the dog I swear! - for I must tell you the truth - the
result of my mission was just this: I found that the men most in repute
were all but the most foolish; and that some inferior men were really
wiser and better. I will tell you the tale of my wanderings and of
the "Herculean" labors, as I may call them, which I endured only to
find at last the oracle irrefutable. When I left the politicians,
I went to the poets; tragic, dithyrambic, and all sorts. And there,
I said to myself, you will be detected; now you will find out that
you are more ignorant than they are. Accordingly, I took them some
of the most elaborate passages in their own writings, and asked what
was the meaning of them - thinking that they would teach me something.
Will you believe me? I am almost ashamed to speak of this, but still
I must say that there is hardly a person present who would not have
talked better about their poetry than they did themselves. That showed
me in an instant that not by wisdom do poets write poetry, but by
a sort of genius and inspiration; they are like diviners or soothsayers
who also say many fine things, but do not understand the meaning of
them. And the poets appeared to me to be much in the same case; and
I further observed that upon the strength of their poetry they believed
themselves to be the wisest of men in other things in which they were
not wise. So I departed, conceiving myself to be superior to them
for the same reason that I was superior to the politicians.
At last I went to the artisans, for I was conscious that I knew nothing
at all, as I may say, and I was sure that they knew many fine things;
and in this I was not mistaken, for they did know many things of which
I was ignorant, and in this they certainly were wiser than I was.
But I observed that even the good artisans fell into the same error
as the poets; because they were good workmen they thought that they
also knew all sorts of high matters, and this defect in them overshadowed
their wisdom - therefore I asked myself on behalf of the oracle, whether
I would like to be as I was, neither having their knowledge nor their
ignorance, or like them in both; and I made answer to myself and the
oracle that I was better off as I was.
This investigation has led to my having many enemies of the worst
and most dangerous kind, and has given occasion also to many calumnies,
and I am called wise, for my hearers always imagine that I myself
possess the wisdom which I find wanting in others: but the truth is,
O men of Athens, that God only is wise; and in this oracle he means
to say that the wisdom of men is little or nothing; he is not speaking
of Socrates, he is only using my name as an illustration, as if he
said, He, O men, is the wisest, who, like Socrates, knows that his
wisdom is in truth worth nothing. And so I go my way, obedient to
the god, and make inquisition into the wisdom of anyone, whether citizen
or stranger, who appears to be wise; and if he is not wise, then in
vindication of the oracle I show him that he is not wise; and this
occupation quite absorbs me, and I have no time to give either to
any public matter of interest or to any concern of my own, but I am
in utter poverty by reason of my devotion to the god.
There is another thing: - young men of the richer classes, who have
not much to do, come about me of their own accord; they like to hear
the pretenders examined, and they often imitate me, and examine others
themselves; there are plenty of persons, as they soon enough discover,
who think that they know something, but really know little or nothing:
and then those who are examined by them instead of being angry with
themselves are angry with me: This confounded Socrates, they say;
this villainous misleader of youth! - and then if somebody asks them,
Why, what evil does he practise or teach? they do not know, and cannot
tell; but in order that they may not appear to be at a loss, they
repeat the ready-made charges which are used against all philosophers
about teaching things up in the clouds and under the earth, and having
no gods, and making the worse appear the better cause; for they do
not like to confess that their pretence of knowledge has been detected
- which is the truth: and as they are numerous and ambitious and energetic,
and are all in battle array and have persuasive tongues, they have
filled your ears with their loud and inveterate calumnies. And this
is the reason why my three accusers, Meletus and Anytus and Lycon,
have set upon me; Meletus, who has a quarrel with me on behalf of
the poets; Anytus, on behalf of the craftsmen; Lycon, on behalf of
the rhetoricians: and as I said at the beginning, I cannot expect
to get rid of this mass of calumny all in a moment. And this, O men
of Athens, is the truth and the whole truth; I have concealed nothing,
I have dissembled nothing. And yet I know that this plainness of speech
makes them hate me, and what is their hatred but a proof that I am
speaking the truth? - this is the occasion and reason of their slander
of me, as you will find out either in this or in any future inquiry.
I have said enough in my defence against the first class of my accusers;
I turn to the second class, who are headed by Meletus, that good and
patriotic man, as he calls himself. And now I will try to defend myself
against them: these new accusers must also have their affidavit read.
What do they say? Something of this sort: - That Socrates is a doer
of evil, and corrupter of the youth, and he does not believe in the
gods of the state, and has other new divinities of his own. That is
the sort of charge; and now let us examine the particular counts.
He says that I am a doer of evil, who corrupt the youth; but I say,
O men of Athens, that Meletus is a doer of evil, and the evil is that
he makes a joke of a serious matter, and is too ready at bringing
other men to trial from a pretended zeal and interest about matters
in which he really never had the smallest interest. And the truth
of this I will endeavor to prove.
Come hither, Meletus, and let me ask a question of you. You think
a great deal about the improvement of youth?
Yes, I do.
Tell the judges, then, who is their improver; for you must know, as
you have taken the pains to discover their corrupter, and are citing
and accusing me before them. Speak, then, and tell the judges who
their improver is. Observe, Meletus, that you are silent, and have
nothing to say. But is not this rather disgraceful, and a very considerable
proof of what I was saying, that you have no interest in the matter?
Speak up, friend, and tell us who their improver is.
The laws.
But that, my good sir, is not my meaning. I want to know who the person
is, who, in the first place, knows the laws.
The judges, Socrates, who are present in court.
What do you mean to say, Meletus, that they are able to instruct and
improve youth?
Certainly they are.
What, all of them, or some only and not others?
All of them.
By the goddess Here, that is good news! There are plenty of improvers,
then. And what do you say of the audience, - do they improve them?
Yes, they do.
And the senators?
Yes, the senators improve them.
But perhaps the members of the citizen assembly corrupt them? - or
do they too improve them?
They improve them.
Then every Athenian improves and elevates them; all with the exception
of myself; and I alone am their corrupter? Is that what you affirm?
That is what I stoutly affirm.
I am very unfortunate if that is true. But suppose I ask you a question:
Would you say that this also holds true in the case of horses? Does
one man do them harm and all the world good? Is not the exact opposite
of this true? One man is able to do them good, or at least not many;
- the trainer of horses, that is to say, does them good, and others
who have to do with them rather injure them? Is not that true, Meletus,
of horses, or any other animals? Yes, certainly. Whether you and Anytus
say yes or no, that is no matter. Happy indeed would be the condition
of youth if they had one corrupter only, and all the rest of the world
were their improvers. And you, Meletus, have sufficiently shown that
you never had a thought about the young: your carelessness is seen
in your not caring about matters spoken of in this very indictment.
And now, Meletus, I must ask you another question: Which is better,
to live among bad citizens, or among good ones? Answer, friend, I
say; for that is a question which may be easily answered. Do not the
good do their neighbors good, and the bad do them evil?
Certainly.
And is there anyone who would rather be injured than benefited by
those who live with him? Answer, my good friend; the law requires
you to answer - does anyone like to be injured?
Certainly not.
And when you accuse me of corrupting and deteriorating the youth,
do you allege that I corrupt them intentionally or unintentionally?
Intentionally, I say.
But you have just admitted that the good do their neighbors good,
and the evil do them evil. Now is that a truth which your superior
wisdom has recognized thus early in life, and am I, at my age, in
such darkness and ignorance as not to know that if a man with whom
I have to live is corrupted by me, I am very likely to be harmed by
him, and yet I corrupt him, and intentionally, too; - that is what
you are saying, and of that you will never persuade me or any other
human being. But either I do not corrupt them, or I corrupt them unintentionally,
so that on either view of the case you lie. If my offence is unintentional,
the law has no cognizance of unintentional offences: you ought to
have taken me privately, and warned and admonished me; for if I had
been better advised, I should have left off doing what I only did
unintentionally - no doubt I should; whereas you hated to converse
with me or teach me, but you indicted me in this court, which is a
place not of instruction, but of punishment.
I have shown, Athenians, as I was saying, that Meletus has no care
at all, great or small, about the matter. But still I should like
to know, Meletus, in what I am affirmed to corrupt the young. I suppose
you mean, as I infer from your indictment, that I teach them not to
acknowledge the gods which the state acknowledges, but some other
new divinities or spiritual agencies in their stead. These are the
lessons which corrupt the youth, as you say.
Yes, that I say emphatically.
Then, by the gods, Meletus, of whom we are speaking, tell me and the
court, in somewhat plainer terms, what you mean! for I do not as yet
understand whether you affirm that I teach others to acknowledge some
gods, and therefore do believe in gods and am not an entire atheist
- this you do not lay to my charge; but only that they are not the
same gods which the city recognizes - the charge is that they are
different gods. Or, do you mean to say that I am an atheist simply,
and a teacher of atheism?
I mean the latter - that you are a complete atheist.
That is an extraordinary statement, Meletus. Why do you say that?
Do you mean that I do not believe in the godhead of the sun or moon,
which is the common creed of all men?
I assure you, judges, that he does not believe in them; for he says
that the sun is stone, and the moon earth.
Friend Meletus, you think that you are accusing Anaxagoras; and you
have but a bad opinion of the judges, if you fancy them ignorant to
such a degree as not to know that those doctrines are found in the
books of Anaxagoras the Clazomenian, who is full of them. And these
are the doctrines which the youth are said to learn of Socrates, when
there are not unfrequently exhibitions of them at the theatre (price
of admission one drachma at the most); and they might cheaply purchase
them, and laugh at Socrates if he pretends to father such eccentricities.
And so, Meletus, you really think that I do not believe in any god?
I swear by Zeus that you believe absolutely in none at all.
You are a liar, Meletus, not believed even by yourself. For I cannot
help thinking, O men of Athens, that Meletus is reckless and impudent,
and that he has written this indictment in a spirit of mere wantonness
and youthful bravado. Has he not compounded a riddle, thinking to
try me? He said to himself: - I shall see whether this wise Socrates
will discover my ingenious contradiction, or whether I shall be able
to deceive him and the rest of them. For he certainly does appear
to me to contradict himself in the indictment as much as if he said
that Socrates is guilty of not believing in the gods, and yet of believing
in them - but this surely is a piece of fun.
I should like you, O men of Athens, to join me in examining what I
conceive to be his inconsistency; and do you, Meletus, answer. And
I must remind you that you are not to interrupt me if I speak in my
accustomed manner.
Did ever man, Meletus, believe in the existence of human things, and
not of human beings? . . . I wish, men of Athens, that he would answer,
and not be always trying to get up an interruption. Did ever any man
believe in horsemanship, and not in horses? or in flute-playing, and
not in flute-players? No, my friend; I will answer to you and to the
court, as you refuse to answer for yourself. There is no man who ever
did. But now please to answer the next question: Can a man believe
in spiritual and divine agencies, and not in spirits or demigods?
He cannot.
I am glad that I have extracted that answer, by the assistance of
the court; nevertheless you swear in the indictment that I teach and
believe in divine or spiritual agencies (new or old, no matter for
that); at any rate, I believe in spiritual agencies, as you say and
swear in the affidavit; but if I believe in divine beings, I must
believe in spirits or demigods; - is not that true? Yes, that is true,
for I may assume that your silence gives assent to that. Now what
are spirits or demigods? are they not either gods or the sons of gods?
Is that true?
Yes, that is true.
But in how different a way from theirs! Well, as I was saying, they
have hardly uttered a word, or not more than a word, of truth; but
you shall hear from me the whole truth: not, however, delivered after
their manner, in a set oration duly ornamented with words and phrases.
No indeed! but I shall use the words and arguments which occur to
me at the moment; for I am certain that this is right, and that at
my time of life I ought not to be appearing before you, O men of Athens,
in the character of a juvenile orator - let no one expect this of
me. And I must beg of you to grant me one favor, which is this - If
you hear me using the same words in my defence which I have been in
the habit of using, and which most of you may have heard in the agora,
and at the tables of the money-changers, or anywhere else, I would
ask you not to be surprised at this, and not to interrupt me. For
I am more than seventy years of age, and this is the first time that
I have ever appeared in a court of law, and I am quite a stranger
to the ways of the place; and therefore I would have you regard me
as if I were really a stranger, whom you would excuse if he spoke
in his native tongue, and after the fashion of his country; - that
I think is not an unfair request. Never mind the manner, which may
or may not be good; but think only of the justice of my cause, and
give heed to that: let the judge decide justly and the speaker speak
truly.
And first, I have to reply to the older charges and to my first accusers,
and then I will go to the later ones. For I have had many accusers,
who accused me of old, and their false charges have continued during
many years; and I am more afraid of them than of Anytus and his associates,
who are dangerous, too, in their own way. But far more dangerous are
these, who began when you were children, and took possession of your
minds with their falsehoods, telling of one Socrates, a wise man,
who speculated about the heaven above, and searched into the earth
beneath, and made the worse appear the better cause. These are the
accusers whom I dread; for they are the circulators of this rumor,
and their hearers are too apt to fancy that speculators of this sort
do not believe in the gods. And they are many, and their charges against
me are of ancient date, and they made them in days when you were impressible
- in childhood, or perhaps in youth - and the cause when heard went
by default, for there was none to answer. And, hardest of all, their
names I do not know and cannot tell; unless in the chance of a comic
poet. But the main body of these slanderers who from envy and malice
have wrought upon you - and there are some of them who are convinced
themselves, and impart their convictions to others - all these, I
say, are most difficult to deal with; for I cannot have them up here,
and examine them, and therefore I must simply fight with shadows in
my own defence, and examine when there is no one who answers. I will
ask you then to assume with me, as I was saying, that my opponents
are of two kinds - one recent, the other ancient; and I hope that
you will see the propriety of my answering the latter first, for these
accusations you heard long before the others, and much oftener.
Well, then, I will make my defence, and I will endeavor in the short
time which is allowed to do away with this evil opinion of me which
you have held for such a long time; and I hope I may succeed, if this
be well for you and me, and that my words may find favor with you.
But I know that to accomplish this is not easy - I quite see the nature
of the task. Let the event be as God wills: in obedience to the law
I make my defence.
I will begin at the beginning, and ask what the accusation is which
has given rise to this slander of me, and which has encouraged Meletus
to proceed against me. What do the slanderers say? They shall be my
prosecutors, and I will sum up their words in an affidavit. "Socrates
is an evil-doer, and a curious person, who searches into things under
the earth and in heaven, and he makes the worse appear the better
cause; and he teaches the aforesaid doctrines to others. " That is
the nature of the accusation, and that is what you have seen yourselves
in the comedy of Aristophanes; who has introduced a man whom he calls
Socrates, going about and saying that he can walk in the air, and
talking a deal of nonsense concerning matters of which I do not pretend
to know either much or little - not that I mean to say anything disparaging
of anyone who is a student of natural philosophy. I should be very
sorry if Meletus could lay that to my charge. But the simple truth
is, O Athenians, that I have nothing to do with these studies. Very
many of those here present are witnesses to the truth of this, and
to them I appeal. Speak then, you who have heard me, and tell your
neighbors whether any of you have ever known me hold forth in few
words or in many upon matters of this sort. . . . You hear their answer.
And from what they say of this you will be able to judge of the truth
of the rest.
As little foundation is there for the report that I am a teacher,
and take money; that is no more true than the other. Although, if
a man is able to teach, I honor him for being paid. There is Gorgias
of Leontium, and Prodicus of Ceos, and Hippias of Elis, who go the
round of the cities, and are able to persuade the young men to leave
their own citizens, by whom they might be taught for nothing, and
come to them, whom they not only pay, but are thankful if they may
be allowed to pay them. There is actually a Parian philosopher residing
in Athens, of whom I have heard; and I came to hear of him in this
way: - I met a man who has spent a world of money on the Sophists,
Callias the son of Hipponicus, and knowing that he had sons, I asked
him: "Callias," I said, "if your two sons were foals or calves, there
would be no difficulty in finding someone to put over them; we should
hire a trainer of horses or a farmer probably who would improve and
perfect them in their own proper virtue and excellence; but as they
are human beings, whom are you thinking of placing over them? Is there
anyone who understands human and political virtue? You must have thought
about this as you have sons; is there anyone? " "There is," he said.
"Who is he? " said I, "and of what country? and what does he charge? "
"Evenus the Parian," he replied; "he is the man, and his charge is
five minae. " Happy is Evenus, I said to myself, if he really has this
wisdom, and teaches at such a modest charge. Had I the same, I should
have been very proud and conceited; but the truth is that I have no
knowledge of the kind.
I dare say, Athenians, that someone among you will reply, "Why is
this, Socrates, and what is the origin of these accusations of you:
for there must have been something strange which you have been doing?
All this great fame and talk about you would never have arisen if
you had been like other men: tell us, then, why this is, as we should
be sorry to judge hastily of you. " Now I regard this as a fair challenge,
and I will endeavor to explain to you the origin of this name of "wise,"
and of this evil fame. Please to attend then. And although some of
you may think I am joking, I declare that I will tell you the entire
truth. Men of Athens, this reputation of mine has come of a certain
sort of wisdom which I possess. If you ask me what kind of wisdom,
I reply, such wisdom as is attainable by man, for to that extent I
am inclined to believe that I am wise; whereas the persons of whom
I was speaking have a superhuman wisdom, which I may fail to describe,
because I have it not myself; and he who says that I have, speaks
falsely, and is taking away my character. And here, O men of Athens,
I must beg you not to interrupt me, even if I seem to say something
extravagant. For the word which I will speak is not mine. I will refer
you to a witness who is worthy of credit, and will tell you about
my wisdom - whether I have any, and of what sort - and that witness
shall be the god of Delphi. You must have known Chaerephon; he was
early a friend of mine, and also a friend of yours, for he shared
in the exile of the people, and returned with you. Well, Chaerephon,
as you know, was very impetuous in all his doings, and he went to
Delphi and boldly asked the oracle to tell him whether - as I was
saying, I must beg you not to interrupt - he asked the oracle to tell
him whether there was anyone wiser than I was, and the Pythian prophetess
answered that there was no man wiser. Chaerephon is dead himself,
but his brother, who is in court, will confirm the truth of this story.
Why do I mention this? Because I am going to explain to you why I
have such an evil name. When I heard the answer, I said to myself,
What can the god mean? and what is the interpretation of this riddle?
for I know that I have no wisdom, small or great. What can he mean
when he says that I am the wisest of men? And yet he is a god and
cannot lie; that would be against his nature. After a long consideration,
I at last thought of a method of trying the question. I reflected
that if I could only find a man wiser than myself, then I might go
to the god with a refutation in my hand. I should say to him, "Here
is a man who is wiser than I am; but you said that I was the wisest. "
Accordingly I went to one who had the reputation of wisdom, and observed
to him - his name I need not mention; he was a politician whom I selected
for examination - and the result was as follows: When I began to talk
with him, I could not help thinking that he was not really wise, although
he was thought wise by many, and wiser still by himself; and I went
and tried to explain to him that he thought himself wise, but was
not really wise; and the consequence was that he hated me, and his
enmity was shared by several who were present and heard me. So I left
him, saying to myself, as I went away: Well, although I do not suppose
that either of us knows anything really beautiful and good, I am better
off than he is - for he knows nothing, and thinks that he knows. I
neither know nor think that I know. In this latter particular, then,
I seem to have slightly the advantage of him. Then I went to another,
who had still higher philosophical pretensions, and my conclusion
was exactly the same. I made another enemy of him, and of many others
besides him.
After this I went to one man after another, being not unconscious
of the enmity which I provoked, and I lamented and feared this: but
necessity was laid upon me - the word of God, I thought, ought to
be considered first. And I said to myself, Go I must to all who appear
to know, and find out the meaning of the oracle. And I swear to you,
Athenians, by the dog I swear! - for I must tell you the truth - the
result of my mission was just this: I found that the men most in repute
were all but the most foolish; and that some inferior men were really
wiser and better. I will tell you the tale of my wanderings and of
the "Herculean" labors, as I may call them, which I endured only to
find at last the oracle irrefutable. When I left the politicians,
I went to the poets; tragic, dithyrambic, and all sorts. And there,
I said to myself, you will be detected; now you will find out that
you are more ignorant than they are. Accordingly, I took them some
of the most elaborate passages in their own writings, and asked what
was the meaning of them - thinking that they would teach me something.
Will you believe me? I am almost ashamed to speak of this, but still
I must say that there is hardly a person present who would not have
talked better about their poetry than they did themselves. That showed
me in an instant that not by wisdom do poets write poetry, but by
a sort of genius and inspiration; they are like diviners or soothsayers
who also say many fine things, but do not understand the meaning of
them. And the poets appeared to me to be much in the same case; and
I further observed that upon the strength of their poetry they believed
themselves to be the wisest of men in other things in which they were
not wise. So I departed, conceiving myself to be superior to them
for the same reason that I was superior to the politicians.
At last I went to the artisans, for I was conscious that I knew nothing
at all, as I may say, and I was sure that they knew many fine things;
and in this I was not mistaken, for they did know many things of which
I was ignorant, and in this they certainly were wiser than I was.
But I observed that even the good artisans fell into the same error
as the poets; because they were good workmen they thought that they
also knew all sorts of high matters, and this defect in them overshadowed
their wisdom - therefore I asked myself on behalf of the oracle, whether
I would like to be as I was, neither having their knowledge nor their
ignorance, or like them in both; and I made answer to myself and the
oracle that I was better off as I was.
This investigation has led to my having many enemies of the worst
and most dangerous kind, and has given occasion also to many calumnies,
and I am called wise, for my hearers always imagine that I myself
possess the wisdom which I find wanting in others: but the truth is,
O men of Athens, that God only is wise; and in this oracle he means
to say that the wisdom of men is little or nothing; he is not speaking
of Socrates, he is only using my name as an illustration, as if he
said, He, O men, is the wisest, who, like Socrates, knows that his
wisdom is in truth worth nothing. And so I go my way, obedient to
the god, and make inquisition into the wisdom of anyone, whether citizen
or stranger, who appears to be wise; and if he is not wise, then in
vindication of the oracle I show him that he is not wise; and this
occupation quite absorbs me, and I have no time to give either to
any public matter of interest or to any concern of my own, but I am
in utter poverty by reason of my devotion to the god.
There is another thing: - young men of the richer classes, who have
not much to do, come about me of their own accord; they like to hear
the pretenders examined, and they often imitate me, and examine others
themselves; there are plenty of persons, as they soon enough discover,
who think that they know something, but really know little or nothing:
and then those who are examined by them instead of being angry with
themselves are angry with me: This confounded Socrates, they say;
this villainous misleader of youth! - and then if somebody asks them,
Why, what evil does he practise or teach? they do not know, and cannot
tell; but in order that they may not appear to be at a loss, they
repeat the ready-made charges which are used against all philosophers
about teaching things up in the clouds and under the earth, and having
no gods, and making the worse appear the better cause; for they do
not like to confess that their pretence of knowledge has been detected
- which is the truth: and as they are numerous and ambitious and energetic,
and are all in battle array and have persuasive tongues, they have
filled your ears with their loud and inveterate calumnies. And this
is the reason why my three accusers, Meletus and Anytus and Lycon,
have set upon me; Meletus, who has a quarrel with me on behalf of
the poets; Anytus, on behalf of the craftsmen; Lycon, on behalf of
the rhetoricians: and as I said at the beginning, I cannot expect
to get rid of this mass of calumny all in a moment. And this, O men
of Athens, is the truth and the whole truth; I have concealed nothing,
I have dissembled nothing. And yet I know that this plainness of speech
makes them hate me, and what is their hatred but a proof that I am
speaking the truth? - this is the occasion and reason of their slander
of me, as you will find out either in this or in any future inquiry.
I have said enough in my defence against the first class of my accusers;
I turn to the second class, who are headed by Meletus, that good and
patriotic man, as he calls himself. And now I will try to defend myself
against them: these new accusers must also have their affidavit read.
What do they say? Something of this sort: - That Socrates is a doer
of evil, and corrupter of the youth, and he does not believe in the
gods of the state, and has other new divinities of his own. That is
the sort of charge; and now let us examine the particular counts.
He says that I am a doer of evil, who corrupt the youth; but I say,
O men of Athens, that Meletus is a doer of evil, and the evil is that
he makes a joke of a serious matter, and is too ready at bringing
other men to trial from a pretended zeal and interest about matters
in which he really never had the smallest interest. And the truth
of this I will endeavor to prove.
Come hither, Meletus, and let me ask a question of you. You think
a great deal about the improvement of youth?
Yes, I do.
Tell the judges, then, who is their improver; for you must know, as
you have taken the pains to discover their corrupter, and are citing
and accusing me before them. Speak, then, and tell the judges who
their improver is. Observe, Meletus, that you are silent, and have
nothing to say. But is not this rather disgraceful, and a very considerable
proof of what I was saying, that you have no interest in the matter?
Speak up, friend, and tell us who their improver is.
The laws.
But that, my good sir, is not my meaning. I want to know who the person
is, who, in the first place, knows the laws.
The judges, Socrates, who are present in court.
What do you mean to say, Meletus, that they are able to instruct and
improve youth?
Certainly they are.
What, all of them, or some only and not others?
All of them.
By the goddess Here, that is good news! There are plenty of improvers,
then. And what do you say of the audience, - do they improve them?
Yes, they do.
And the senators?
Yes, the senators improve them.
But perhaps the members of the citizen assembly corrupt them? - or
do they too improve them?
They improve them.
Then every Athenian improves and elevates them; all with the exception
of myself; and I alone am their corrupter? Is that what you affirm?
That is what I stoutly affirm.
I am very unfortunate if that is true. But suppose I ask you a question:
Would you say that this also holds true in the case of horses? Does
one man do them harm and all the world good? Is not the exact opposite
of this true? One man is able to do them good, or at least not many;
- the trainer of horses, that is to say, does them good, and others
who have to do with them rather injure them? Is not that true, Meletus,
of horses, or any other animals? Yes, certainly. Whether you and Anytus
say yes or no, that is no matter. Happy indeed would be the condition
of youth if they had one corrupter only, and all the rest of the world
were their improvers. And you, Meletus, have sufficiently shown that
you never had a thought about the young: your carelessness is seen
in your not caring about matters spoken of in this very indictment.
And now, Meletus, I must ask you another question: Which is better,
to live among bad citizens, or among good ones? Answer, friend, I
say; for that is a question which may be easily answered. Do not the
good do their neighbors good, and the bad do them evil?
Certainly.
And is there anyone who would rather be injured than benefited by
those who live with him? Answer, my good friend; the law requires
you to answer - does anyone like to be injured?
Certainly not.
And when you accuse me of corrupting and deteriorating the youth,
do you allege that I corrupt them intentionally or unintentionally?
Intentionally, I say.
But you have just admitted that the good do their neighbors good,
and the evil do them evil. Now is that a truth which your superior
wisdom has recognized thus early in life, and am I, at my age, in
such darkness and ignorance as not to know that if a man with whom
I have to live is corrupted by me, I am very likely to be harmed by
him, and yet I corrupt him, and intentionally, too; - that is what
you are saying, and of that you will never persuade me or any other
human being. But either I do not corrupt them, or I corrupt them unintentionally,
so that on either view of the case you lie. If my offence is unintentional,
the law has no cognizance of unintentional offences: you ought to
have taken me privately, and warned and admonished me; for if I had
been better advised, I should have left off doing what I only did
unintentionally - no doubt I should; whereas you hated to converse
with me or teach me, but you indicted me in this court, which is a
place not of instruction, but of punishment.
I have shown, Athenians, as I was saying, that Meletus has no care
at all, great or small, about the matter. But still I should like
to know, Meletus, in what I am affirmed to corrupt the young. I suppose
you mean, as I infer from your indictment, that I teach them not to
acknowledge the gods which the state acknowledges, but some other
new divinities or spiritual agencies in their stead. These are the
lessons which corrupt the youth, as you say.
Yes, that I say emphatically.
Then, by the gods, Meletus, of whom we are speaking, tell me and the
court, in somewhat plainer terms, what you mean! for I do not as yet
understand whether you affirm that I teach others to acknowledge some
gods, and therefore do believe in gods and am not an entire atheist
- this you do not lay to my charge; but only that they are not the
same gods which the city recognizes - the charge is that they are
different gods. Or, do you mean to say that I am an atheist simply,
and a teacher of atheism?
I mean the latter - that you are a complete atheist.
That is an extraordinary statement, Meletus. Why do you say that?
Do you mean that I do not believe in the godhead of the sun or moon,
which is the common creed of all men?
I assure you, judges, that he does not believe in them; for he says
that the sun is stone, and the moon earth.
Friend Meletus, you think that you are accusing Anaxagoras; and you
have but a bad opinion of the judges, if you fancy them ignorant to
such a degree as not to know that those doctrines are found in the
books of Anaxagoras the Clazomenian, who is full of them. And these
are the doctrines which the youth are said to learn of Socrates, when
there are not unfrequently exhibitions of them at the theatre (price
of admission one drachma at the most); and they might cheaply purchase
them, and laugh at Socrates if he pretends to father such eccentricities.
And so, Meletus, you really think that I do not believe in any god?
I swear by Zeus that you believe absolutely in none at all.
You are a liar, Meletus, not believed even by yourself. For I cannot
help thinking, O men of Athens, that Meletus is reckless and impudent,
and that he has written this indictment in a spirit of mere wantonness
and youthful bravado. Has he not compounded a riddle, thinking to
try me? He said to himself: - I shall see whether this wise Socrates
will discover my ingenious contradiction, or whether I shall be able
to deceive him and the rest of them. For he certainly does appear
to me to contradict himself in the indictment as much as if he said
that Socrates is guilty of not believing in the gods, and yet of believing
in them - but this surely is a piece of fun.
I should like you, O men of Athens, to join me in examining what I
conceive to be his inconsistency; and do you, Meletus, answer. And
I must remind you that you are not to interrupt me if I speak in my
accustomed manner.
Did ever man, Meletus, believe in the existence of human things, and
not of human beings? . . . I wish, men of Athens, that he would answer,
and not be always trying to get up an interruption. Did ever any man
believe in horsemanship, and not in horses? or in flute-playing, and
not in flute-players? No, my friend; I will answer to you and to the
court, as you refuse to answer for yourself. There is no man who ever
did. But now please to answer the next question: Can a man believe
in spiritual and divine agencies, and not in spirits or demigods?
He cannot.
I am glad that I have extracted that answer, by the assistance of
the court; nevertheless you swear in the indictment that I teach and
believe in divine or spiritual agencies (new or old, no matter for
that); at any rate, I believe in spiritual agencies, as you say and
swear in the affidavit; but if I believe in divine beings, I must
believe in spirits or demigods; - is not that true? Yes, that is true,
for I may assume that your silence gives assent to that. Now what
are spirits or demigods? are they not either gods or the sons of gods?
Is that true?
Yes, that is true.
But this is just the ingenious riddle of which I was speaking: the
demigods or spirits are gods, and you say first that I don't believe
in gods, and then again that I do believe in gods; that is, if I believe
in demigods. For if the demigods are the illegitimate sons of gods,
whether by the Nymphs or by any other mothers, as is thought, that,
as all men will allow, necessarily implies the existence of their
parents. You might as well affirm the existence of mules, and deny
that of horses and asses. Such nonsense, Meletus, could only have
been intended by you as a trial of me.
By Plato
Translated by Benjamin Jowett
Socrates' Defense
How you have felt, O men of Athens, at hearing the speeches of my
accusers, I cannot tell; but I know that their persuasive words almost
made me forget who I was - such was the effect of them; and yet they
have hardly spoken a word of truth. But many as their falsehoods were,
there was one of them which quite amazed me; - I mean when they told
you to be upon your guard, and not to let yourselves be deceived by
the force of my eloquence. They ought to have been ashamed of saying
this, because they were sure to be detected as soon as I opened my
lips and displayed my deficiency; they certainly did appear to be
most shameless in saying this, unless by the force of eloquence they
mean the force of truth; for then I do indeed admit that I am eloquent.
But in how different a way from theirs! Well, as I was saying, they
have hardly uttered a word, or not more than a word, of truth; but
you shall hear from me the whole truth: not, however, delivered after
their manner, in a set oration duly ornamented with words and phrases.
No indeed! but I shall use the words and arguments which occur to
me at the moment; for I am certain that this is right, and that at
my time of life I ought not to be appearing before you, O men of Athens,
in the character of a juvenile orator - let no one expect this of
me. And I must beg of you to grant me one favor, which is this - If
you hear me using the same words in my defence which I have been in
the habit of using, and which most of you may have heard in the agora,
and at the tables of the money-changers, or anywhere else, I would
ask you not to be surprised at this, and not to interrupt me. For
I am more than seventy years of age, and this is the first time that
I have ever appeared in a court of law, and I am quite a stranger
to the ways of the place; and therefore I would have you regard me
as if I were really a stranger, whom you would excuse if he spoke
in his native tongue, and after the fashion of his country; - that
I think is not an unfair request. Never mind the manner, which may
or may not be good; but think only of the justice of my cause, and
give heed to that: let the judge decide justly and the speaker speak
truly.
And first, I have to reply to the older charges and to my first accusers,
and then I will go to the later ones. For I have had many accusers,
who accused me of old, and their false charges have continued during
many years; and I am more afraid of them than of Anytus and his associates,
who are dangerous, too, in their own way. But far more dangerous are
these, who began when you were children, and took possession of your
minds with their falsehoods, telling of one Socrates, a wise man,
who speculated about the heaven above, and searched into the earth
beneath, and made the worse appear the better cause. These are the
accusers whom I dread; for they are the circulators of this rumor,
and their hearers are too apt to fancy that speculators of this sort
do not believe in the gods. And they are many, and their charges against
me are of ancient date, and they made them in days when you were impressible
- in childhood, or perhaps in youth - and the cause when heard went
by default, for there was none to answer. And, hardest of all, their
names I do not know and cannot tell; unless in the chance of a comic
poet. But the main body of these slanderers who from envy and malice
have wrought upon you - and there are some of them who are convinced
themselves, and impart their convictions to others - all these, I
say, are most difficult to deal with; for I cannot have them up here,
and examine them, and therefore I must simply fight with shadows in
my own defence, and examine when there is no one who answers. I will
ask you then to assume with me, as I was saying, that my opponents
are of two kinds - one recent, the other ancient; and I hope that
you will see the propriety of my answering the latter first, for these
accusations you heard long before the others, and much oftener.
Well, then, I will make my defence, and I will endeavor in the short
time which is allowed to do away with this evil opinion of me which
you have held for such a long time; and I hope I may succeed, if this
be well for you and me, and that my words may find favor with you.
But I know that to accomplish this is not easy - I quite see the nature
of the task. Let the event be as God wills: in obedience to the law
I make my defence.
I will begin at the beginning, and ask what the accusation is which
has given rise to this slander of me, and which has encouraged Meletus
to proceed against me. What do the slanderers say? They shall be my
prosecutors, and I will sum up their words in an affidavit. "Socrates
is an evil-doer, and a curious person, who searches into things under
the earth and in heaven, and he makes the worse appear the better
cause; and he teaches the aforesaid doctrines to others. " That is
the nature of the accusation, and that is what you have seen yourselves
in the comedy of Aristophanes; who has introduced a man whom he calls
Socrates, going about and saying that he can walk in the air, and
talking a deal of nonsense concerning matters of which I do not pretend
to know either much or little - not that I mean to say anything disparaging
of anyone who is a student of natural philosophy. I should be very
sorry if Meletus could lay that to my charge. But the simple truth
is, O Athenians, that I have nothing to do with these studies. Very
many of those here present are witnesses to the truth of this, and
to them I appeal. Speak then, you who have heard me, and tell your
neighbors whether any of you have ever known me hold forth in few
words or in many upon matters of this sort. . . . You hear their answer.
And from what they say of this you will be able to judge of the truth
of the rest.
As little foundation is there for the report that I am a teacher,
and take money; that is no more true than the other. Although, if
a man is able to teach, I honor him for being paid. There is Gorgias
of Leontium, and Prodicus of Ceos, and Hippias of Elis, who go the
round of the cities, and are able to persuade the young men to leave
their own citizens, by whom they might be taught for nothing, and
come to them, whom they not only pay, but are thankful if they may
be allowed to pay them. There is actually a Parian philosopher residing
in Athens, of whom I have heard; and I came to hear of him in this
way: - I met a man who has spent a world of money on the Sophists,
Callias the son of Hipponicus, and knowing that he had sons, I asked
him: "Callias," I said, "if your two sons were foals or calves, there
would be no difficulty in finding someone to put over them; we should
hire a trainer of horses or a farmer probably who would improve and
perfect them in their own proper virtue and excellence; but as they
are human beings, whom are you thinking of placing over them? Is there
anyone who understands human and political virtue? You must have thought
about this as you have sons; is there anyone? " "There is," he said.
"Who is he? " said I, "and of what country? and what does he charge? "
"Evenus the Parian," he replied; "he is the man, and his charge is
five minae. " Happy is Evenus, I said to myself, if he really has this
wisdom, and teaches at such a modest charge. Had I the same, I should
have been very proud and conceited; but the truth is that I have no
knowledge of the kind.
I dare say, Athenians, that someone among you will reply, "Why is
this, Socrates, and what is the origin of these accusations of you:
for there must have been something strange which you have been doing?
All this great fame and talk about you would never have arisen if
you had been like other men: tell us, then, why this is, as we should
be sorry to judge hastily of you. " Now I regard this as a fair challenge,
and I will endeavor to explain to you the origin of this name of "wise,"
and of this evil fame. Please to attend then. And although some of
you may think I am joking, I declare that I will tell you the entire
truth. Men of Athens, this reputation of mine has come of a certain
sort of wisdom which I possess. If you ask me what kind of wisdom,
I reply, such wisdom as is attainable by man, for to that extent I
am inclined to believe that I am wise; whereas the persons of whom
I was speaking have a superhuman wisdom, which I may fail to describe,
because I have it not myself; and he who says that I have, speaks
falsely, and is taking away my character. And here, O men of Athens,
I must beg you not to interrupt me, even if I seem to say something
extravagant. For the word which I will speak is not mine. I will refer
you to a witness who is worthy of credit, and will tell you about
my wisdom - whether I have any, and of what sort - and that witness
shall be the god of Delphi. You must have known Chaerephon; he was
early a friend of mine, and also a friend of yours, for he shared
in the exile of the people, and returned with you. Well, Chaerephon,
as you know, was very impetuous in all his doings, and he went to
Delphi and boldly asked the oracle to tell him whether - as I was
saying, I must beg you not to interrupt - he asked the oracle to tell
him whether there was anyone wiser than I was, and the Pythian prophetess
answered that there was no man wiser. Chaerephon is dead himself,
but his brother, who is in court, will confirm the truth of this story.
Why do I mention this? Because I am going to explain to you why I
have such an evil name. When I heard the answer, I said to myself,
What can the god mean? and what is the interpretation of this riddle?
for I know that I have no wisdom, small or great. What can he mean
when he says that I am the wisest of men? And yet he is a god and
cannot lie; that would be against his nature. After a long consideration,
I at last thought of a method of trying the question. I reflected
that if I could only find a man wiser than myself, then I might go
to the god with a refutation in my hand. I should say to him, "Here
is a man who is wiser than I am; but you said that I was the wisest. "
Accordingly I went to one who had the reputation of wisdom, and observed
to him - his name I need not mention; he was a politician whom I selected
for examination - and the result was as follows: When I began to talk
with him, I could not help thinking that he was not really wise, although
he was thought wise by many, and wiser still by himself; and I went
and tried to explain to him that he thought himself wise, but was
not really wise; and the consequence was that he hated me, and his
enmity was shared by several who were present and heard me. So I left
him, saying to myself, as I went away: Well, although I do not suppose
that either of us knows anything really beautiful and good, I am better
off than he is - for he knows nothing, and thinks that he knows. I
neither know nor think that I know. In this latter particular, then,
I seem to have slightly the advantage of him. Then I went to another,
who had still higher philosophical pretensions, and my conclusion
was exactly the same. I made another enemy of him, and of many others
besides him.
After this I went to one man after another, being not unconscious
of the enmity which I provoked, and I lamented and feared this: but
necessity was laid upon me - the word of God, I thought, ought to
be considered first. And I said to myself, Go I must to all who appear
to know, and find out the meaning of the oracle. And I swear to you,
Athenians, by the dog I swear! - for I must tell you the truth - the
result of my mission was just this: I found that the men most in repute
were all but the most foolish; and that some inferior men were really
wiser and better. I will tell you the tale of my wanderings and of
the "Herculean" labors, as I may call them, which I endured only to
find at last the oracle irrefutable. When I left the politicians,
I went to the poets; tragic, dithyrambic, and all sorts. And there,
I said to myself, you will be detected; now you will find out that
you are more ignorant than they are. Accordingly, I took them some
of the most elaborate passages in their own writings, and asked what
was the meaning of them - thinking that they would teach me something.
Will you believe me? I am almost ashamed to speak of this, but still
I must say that there is hardly a person present who would not have
talked better about their poetry than they did themselves. That showed
me in an instant that not by wisdom do poets write poetry, but by
a sort of genius and inspiration; they are like diviners or soothsayers
who also say many fine things, but do not understand the meaning of
them. And the poets appeared to me to be much in the same case; and
I further observed that upon the strength of their poetry they believed
themselves to be the wisest of men in other things in which they were
not wise. So I departed, conceiving myself to be superior to them
for the same reason that I was superior to the politicians.
At last I went to the artisans, for I was conscious that I knew nothing
at all, as I may say, and I was sure that they knew many fine things;
and in this I was not mistaken, for they did know many things of which
I was ignorant, and in this they certainly were wiser than I was.
But I observed that even the good artisans fell into the same error
as the poets; because they were good workmen they thought that they
also knew all sorts of high matters, and this defect in them overshadowed
their wisdom - therefore I asked myself on behalf of the oracle, whether
I would like to be as I was, neither having their knowledge nor their
ignorance, or like them in both; and I made answer to myself and the
oracle that I was better off as I was.
This investigation has led to my having many enemies of the worst
and most dangerous kind, and has given occasion also to many calumnies,
and I am called wise, for my hearers always imagine that I myself
possess the wisdom which I find wanting in others: but the truth is,
O men of Athens, that God only is wise; and in this oracle he means
to say that the wisdom of men is little or nothing; he is not speaking
of Socrates, he is only using my name as an illustration, as if he
said, He, O men, is the wisest, who, like Socrates, knows that his
wisdom is in truth worth nothing. And so I go my way, obedient to
the god, and make inquisition into the wisdom of anyone, whether citizen
or stranger, who appears to be wise; and if he is not wise, then in
vindication of the oracle I show him that he is not wise; and this
occupation quite absorbs me, and I have no time to give either to
any public matter of interest or to any concern of my own, but I am
in utter poverty by reason of my devotion to the god.
There is another thing: - young men of the richer classes, who have
not much to do, come about me of their own accord; they like to hear
the pretenders examined, and they often imitate me, and examine others
themselves; there are plenty of persons, as they soon enough discover,
who think that they know something, but really know little or nothing:
and then those who are examined by them instead of being angry with
themselves are angry with me: This confounded Socrates, they say;
this villainous misleader of youth! - and then if somebody asks them,
Why, what evil does he practise or teach? they do not know, and cannot
tell; but in order that they may not appear to be at a loss, they
repeat the ready-made charges which are used against all philosophers
about teaching things up in the clouds and under the earth, and having
no gods, and making the worse appear the better cause; for they do
not like to confess that their pretence of knowledge has been detected
- which is the truth: and as they are numerous and ambitious and energetic,
and are all in battle array and have persuasive tongues, they have
filled your ears with their loud and inveterate calumnies. And this
is the reason why my three accusers, Meletus and Anytus and Lycon,
have set upon me; Meletus, who has a quarrel with me on behalf of
the poets; Anytus, on behalf of the craftsmen; Lycon, on behalf of
the rhetoricians: and as I said at the beginning, I cannot expect
to get rid of this mass of calumny all in a moment. And this, O men
of Athens, is the truth and the whole truth; I have concealed nothing,
I have dissembled nothing. And yet I know that this plainness of speech
makes them hate me, and what is their hatred but a proof that I am
speaking the truth? - this is the occasion and reason of their slander
of me, as you will find out either in this or in any future inquiry.
I have said enough in my defence against the first class of my accusers;
I turn to the second class, who are headed by Meletus, that good and
patriotic man, as he calls himself. And now I will try to defend myself
against them: these new accusers must also have their affidavit read.
What do they say? Something of this sort: - That Socrates is a doer
of evil, and corrupter of the youth, and he does not believe in the
gods of the state, and has other new divinities of his own. That is
the sort of charge; and now let us examine the particular counts.
He says that I am a doer of evil, who corrupt the youth; but I say,
O men of Athens, that Meletus is a doer of evil, and the evil is that
he makes a joke of a serious matter, and is too ready at bringing
other men to trial from a pretended zeal and interest about matters
in which he really never had the smallest interest. And the truth
of this I will endeavor to prove.
Come hither, Meletus, and let me ask a question of you. You think
a great deal about the improvement of youth?
Yes, I do.
Tell the judges, then, who is their improver; for you must know, as
you have taken the pains to discover their corrupter, and are citing
and accusing me before them. Speak, then, and tell the judges who
their improver is. Observe, Meletus, that you are silent, and have
nothing to say. But is not this rather disgraceful, and a very considerable
proof of what I was saying, that you have no interest in the matter?
Speak up, friend, and tell us who their improver is.
The laws.
But that, my good sir, is not my meaning. I want to know who the person
is, who, in the first place, knows the laws.
The judges, Socrates, who are present in court.
What do you mean to say, Meletus, that they are able to instruct and
improve youth?
Certainly they are.
What, all of them, or some only and not others?
All of them.
By the goddess Here, that is good news! There are plenty of improvers,
then. And what do you say of the audience, - do they improve them?
Yes, they do.
And the senators?
Yes, the senators improve them.
But perhaps the members of the citizen assembly corrupt them? - or
do they too improve them?
They improve them.
Then every Athenian improves and elevates them; all with the exception
of myself; and I alone am their corrupter? Is that what you affirm?
That is what I stoutly affirm.
I am very unfortunate if that is true. But suppose I ask you a question:
Would you say that this also holds true in the case of horses? Does
one man do them harm and all the world good? Is not the exact opposite
of this true? One man is able to do them good, or at least not many;
- the trainer of horses, that is to say, does them good, and others
who have to do with them rather injure them? Is not that true, Meletus,
of horses, or any other animals? Yes, certainly. Whether you and Anytus
say yes or no, that is no matter. Happy indeed would be the condition
of youth if they had one corrupter only, and all the rest of the world
were their improvers. And you, Meletus, have sufficiently shown that
you never had a thought about the young: your carelessness is seen
in your not caring about matters spoken of in this very indictment.
And now, Meletus, I must ask you another question: Which is better,
to live among bad citizens, or among good ones? Answer, friend, I
say; for that is a question which may be easily answered. Do not the
good do their neighbors good, and the bad do them evil?
Certainly.
And is there anyone who would rather be injured than benefited by
those who live with him? Answer, my good friend; the law requires
you to answer - does anyone like to be injured?
Certainly not.
And when you accuse me of corrupting and deteriorating the youth,
do you allege that I corrupt them intentionally or unintentionally?
Intentionally, I say.
But you have just admitted that the good do their neighbors good,
and the evil do them evil. Now is that a truth which your superior
wisdom has recognized thus early in life, and am I, at my age, in
such darkness and ignorance as not to know that if a man with whom
I have to live is corrupted by me, I am very likely to be harmed by
him, and yet I corrupt him, and intentionally, too; - that is what
you are saying, and of that you will never persuade me or any other
human being. But either I do not corrupt them, or I corrupt them unintentionally,
so that on either view of the case you lie. If my offence is unintentional,
the law has no cognizance of unintentional offences: you ought to
have taken me privately, and warned and admonished me; for if I had
been better advised, I should have left off doing what I only did
unintentionally - no doubt I should; whereas you hated to converse
with me or teach me, but you indicted me in this court, which is a
place not of instruction, but of punishment.
I have shown, Athenians, as I was saying, that Meletus has no care
at all, great or small, about the matter. But still I should like
to know, Meletus, in what I am affirmed to corrupt the young. I suppose
you mean, as I infer from your indictment, that I teach them not to
acknowledge the gods which the state acknowledges, but some other
new divinities or spiritual agencies in their stead. These are the
lessons which corrupt the youth, as you say.
Yes, that I say emphatically.
Then, by the gods, Meletus, of whom we are speaking, tell me and the
court, in somewhat plainer terms, what you mean! for I do not as yet
understand whether you affirm that I teach others to acknowledge some
gods, and therefore do believe in gods and am not an entire atheist
- this you do not lay to my charge; but only that they are not the
same gods which the city recognizes - the charge is that they are
different gods. Or, do you mean to say that I am an atheist simply,
and a teacher of atheism?
I mean the latter - that you are a complete atheist.
That is an extraordinary statement, Meletus. Why do you say that?
Do you mean that I do not believe in the godhead of the sun or moon,
which is the common creed of all men?
I assure you, judges, that he does not believe in them; for he says
that the sun is stone, and the moon earth.
Friend Meletus, you think that you are accusing Anaxagoras; and you
have but a bad opinion of the judges, if you fancy them ignorant to
such a degree as not to know that those doctrines are found in the
books of Anaxagoras the Clazomenian, who is full of them. And these
are the doctrines which the youth are said to learn of Socrates, when
there are not unfrequently exhibitions of them at the theatre (price
of admission one drachma at the most); and they might cheaply purchase
them, and laugh at Socrates if he pretends to father such eccentricities.
And so, Meletus, you really think that I do not believe in any god?
I swear by Zeus that you believe absolutely in none at all.
You are a liar, Meletus, not believed even by yourself. For I cannot
help thinking, O men of Athens, that Meletus is reckless and impudent,
and that he has written this indictment in a spirit of mere wantonness
and youthful bravado. Has he not compounded a riddle, thinking to
try me? He said to himself: - I shall see whether this wise Socrates
will discover my ingenious contradiction, or whether I shall be able
to deceive him and the rest of them. For he certainly does appear
to me to contradict himself in the indictment as much as if he said
that Socrates is guilty of not believing in the gods, and yet of believing
in them - but this surely is a piece of fun.
I should like you, O men of Athens, to join me in examining what I
conceive to be his inconsistency; and do you, Meletus, answer. And
I must remind you that you are not to interrupt me if I speak in my
accustomed manner.
Did ever man, Meletus, believe in the existence of human things, and
not of human beings? . . . I wish, men of Athens, that he would answer,
and not be always trying to get up an interruption. Did ever any man
believe in horsemanship, and not in horses? or in flute-playing, and
not in flute-players? No, my friend; I will answer to you and to the
court, as you refuse to answer for yourself. There is no man who ever
did. But now please to answer the next question: Can a man believe
in spiritual and divine agencies, and not in spirits or demigods?
He cannot.
I am glad that I have extracted that answer, by the assistance of
the court; nevertheless you swear in the indictment that I teach and
believe in divine or spiritual agencies (new or old, no matter for
that); at any rate, I believe in spiritual agencies, as you say and
swear in the affidavit; but if I believe in divine beings, I must
believe in spirits or demigods; - is not that true? Yes, that is true,
for I may assume that your silence gives assent to that. Now what
are spirits or demigods? are they not either gods or the sons of gods?
Is that true?
Yes, that is true.
But in how different a way from theirs! Well, as I was saying, they
have hardly uttered a word, or not more than a word, of truth; but
you shall hear from me the whole truth: not, however, delivered after
their manner, in a set oration duly ornamented with words and phrases.
No indeed! but I shall use the words and arguments which occur to
me at the moment; for I am certain that this is right, and that at
my time of life I ought not to be appearing before you, O men of Athens,
in the character of a juvenile orator - let no one expect this of
me. And I must beg of you to grant me one favor, which is this - If
you hear me using the same words in my defence which I have been in
the habit of using, and which most of you may have heard in the agora,
and at the tables of the money-changers, or anywhere else, I would
ask you not to be surprised at this, and not to interrupt me. For
I am more than seventy years of age, and this is the first time that
I have ever appeared in a court of law, and I am quite a stranger
to the ways of the place; and therefore I would have you regard me
as if I were really a stranger, whom you would excuse if he spoke
in his native tongue, and after the fashion of his country; - that
I think is not an unfair request. Never mind the manner, which may
or may not be good; but think only of the justice of my cause, and
give heed to that: let the judge decide justly and the speaker speak
truly.
And first, I have to reply to the older charges and to my first accusers,
and then I will go to the later ones. For I have had many accusers,
who accused me of old, and their false charges have continued during
many years; and I am more afraid of them than of Anytus and his associates,
who are dangerous, too, in their own way. But far more dangerous are
these, who began when you were children, and took possession of your
minds with their falsehoods, telling of one Socrates, a wise man,
who speculated about the heaven above, and searched into the earth
beneath, and made the worse appear the better cause. These are the
accusers whom I dread; for they are the circulators of this rumor,
and their hearers are too apt to fancy that speculators of this sort
do not believe in the gods. And they are many, and their charges against
me are of ancient date, and they made them in days when you were impressible
- in childhood, or perhaps in youth - and the cause when heard went
by default, for there was none to answer. And, hardest of all, their
names I do not know and cannot tell; unless in the chance of a comic
poet. But the main body of these slanderers who from envy and malice
have wrought upon you - and there are some of them who are convinced
themselves, and impart their convictions to others - all these, I
say, are most difficult to deal with; for I cannot have them up here,
and examine them, and therefore I must simply fight with shadows in
my own defence, and examine when there is no one who answers. I will
ask you then to assume with me, as I was saying, that my opponents
are of two kinds - one recent, the other ancient; and I hope that
you will see the propriety of my answering the latter first, for these
accusations you heard long before the others, and much oftener.
Well, then, I will make my defence, and I will endeavor in the short
time which is allowed to do away with this evil opinion of me which
you have held for such a long time; and I hope I may succeed, if this
be well for you and me, and that my words may find favor with you.
But I know that to accomplish this is not easy - I quite see the nature
of the task. Let the event be as God wills: in obedience to the law
I make my defence.
I will begin at the beginning, and ask what the accusation is which
has given rise to this slander of me, and which has encouraged Meletus
to proceed against me. What do the slanderers say? They shall be my
prosecutors, and I will sum up their words in an affidavit. "Socrates
is an evil-doer, and a curious person, who searches into things under
the earth and in heaven, and he makes the worse appear the better
cause; and he teaches the aforesaid doctrines to others. " That is
the nature of the accusation, and that is what you have seen yourselves
in the comedy of Aristophanes; who has introduced a man whom he calls
Socrates, going about and saying that he can walk in the air, and
talking a deal of nonsense concerning matters of which I do not pretend
to know either much or little - not that I mean to say anything disparaging
of anyone who is a student of natural philosophy. I should be very
sorry if Meletus could lay that to my charge. But the simple truth
is, O Athenians, that I have nothing to do with these studies. Very
many of those here present are witnesses to the truth of this, and
to them I appeal. Speak then, you who have heard me, and tell your
neighbors whether any of you have ever known me hold forth in few
words or in many upon matters of this sort. . . . You hear their answer.
And from what they say of this you will be able to judge of the truth
of the rest.
As little foundation is there for the report that I am a teacher,
and take money; that is no more true than the other. Although, if
a man is able to teach, I honor him for being paid. There is Gorgias
of Leontium, and Prodicus of Ceos, and Hippias of Elis, who go the
round of the cities, and are able to persuade the young men to leave
their own citizens, by whom they might be taught for nothing, and
come to them, whom they not only pay, but are thankful if they may
be allowed to pay them. There is actually a Parian philosopher residing
in Athens, of whom I have heard; and I came to hear of him in this
way: - I met a man who has spent a world of money on the Sophists,
Callias the son of Hipponicus, and knowing that he had sons, I asked
him: "Callias," I said, "if your two sons were foals or calves, there
would be no difficulty in finding someone to put over them; we should
hire a trainer of horses or a farmer probably who would improve and
perfect them in their own proper virtue and excellence; but as they
are human beings, whom are you thinking of placing over them? Is there
anyone who understands human and political virtue? You must have thought
about this as you have sons; is there anyone? " "There is," he said.
"Who is he? " said I, "and of what country? and what does he charge? "
"Evenus the Parian," he replied; "he is the man, and his charge is
five minae. " Happy is Evenus, I said to myself, if he really has this
wisdom, and teaches at such a modest charge. Had I the same, I should
have been very proud and conceited; but the truth is that I have no
knowledge of the kind.
I dare say, Athenians, that someone among you will reply, "Why is
this, Socrates, and what is the origin of these accusations of you:
for there must have been something strange which you have been doing?
All this great fame and talk about you would never have arisen if
you had been like other men: tell us, then, why this is, as we should
be sorry to judge hastily of you. " Now I regard this as a fair challenge,
and I will endeavor to explain to you the origin of this name of "wise,"
and of this evil fame. Please to attend then. And although some of
you may think I am joking, I declare that I will tell you the entire
truth. Men of Athens, this reputation of mine has come of a certain
sort of wisdom which I possess. If you ask me what kind of wisdom,
I reply, such wisdom as is attainable by man, for to that extent I
am inclined to believe that I am wise; whereas the persons of whom
I was speaking have a superhuman wisdom, which I may fail to describe,
because I have it not myself; and he who says that I have, speaks
falsely, and is taking away my character. And here, O men of Athens,
I must beg you not to interrupt me, even if I seem to say something
extravagant. For the word which I will speak is not mine. I will refer
you to a witness who is worthy of credit, and will tell you about
my wisdom - whether I have any, and of what sort - and that witness
shall be the god of Delphi. You must have known Chaerephon; he was
early a friend of mine, and also a friend of yours, for he shared
in the exile of the people, and returned with you. Well, Chaerephon,
as you know, was very impetuous in all his doings, and he went to
Delphi and boldly asked the oracle to tell him whether - as I was
saying, I must beg you not to interrupt - he asked the oracle to tell
him whether there was anyone wiser than I was, and the Pythian prophetess
answered that there was no man wiser. Chaerephon is dead himself,
but his brother, who is in court, will confirm the truth of this story.
Why do I mention this? Because I am going to explain to you why I
have such an evil name. When I heard the answer, I said to myself,
What can the god mean? and what is the interpretation of this riddle?
for I know that I have no wisdom, small or great. What can he mean
when he says that I am the wisest of men? And yet he is a god and
cannot lie; that would be against his nature. After a long consideration,
I at last thought of a method of trying the question. I reflected
that if I could only find a man wiser than myself, then I might go
to the god with a refutation in my hand. I should say to him, "Here
is a man who is wiser than I am; but you said that I was the wisest. "
Accordingly I went to one who had the reputation of wisdom, and observed
to him - his name I need not mention; he was a politician whom I selected
for examination - and the result was as follows: When I began to talk
with him, I could not help thinking that he was not really wise, although
he was thought wise by many, and wiser still by himself; and I went
and tried to explain to him that he thought himself wise, but was
not really wise; and the consequence was that he hated me, and his
enmity was shared by several who were present and heard me. So I left
him, saying to myself, as I went away: Well, although I do not suppose
that either of us knows anything really beautiful and good, I am better
off than he is - for he knows nothing, and thinks that he knows. I
neither know nor think that I know. In this latter particular, then,
I seem to have slightly the advantage of him. Then I went to another,
who had still higher philosophical pretensions, and my conclusion
was exactly the same. I made another enemy of him, and of many others
besides him.
After this I went to one man after another, being not unconscious
of the enmity which I provoked, and I lamented and feared this: but
necessity was laid upon me - the word of God, I thought, ought to
be considered first. And I said to myself, Go I must to all who appear
to know, and find out the meaning of the oracle. And I swear to you,
Athenians, by the dog I swear! - for I must tell you the truth - the
result of my mission was just this: I found that the men most in repute
were all but the most foolish; and that some inferior men were really
wiser and better. I will tell you the tale of my wanderings and of
the "Herculean" labors, as I may call them, which I endured only to
find at last the oracle irrefutable. When I left the politicians,
I went to the poets; tragic, dithyrambic, and all sorts. And there,
I said to myself, you will be detected; now you will find out that
you are more ignorant than they are. Accordingly, I took them some
of the most elaborate passages in their own writings, and asked what
was the meaning of them - thinking that they would teach me something.
Will you believe me? I am almost ashamed to speak of this, but still
I must say that there is hardly a person present who would not have
talked better about their poetry than they did themselves. That showed
me in an instant that not by wisdom do poets write poetry, but by
a sort of genius and inspiration; they are like diviners or soothsayers
who also say many fine things, but do not understand the meaning of
them. And the poets appeared to me to be much in the same case; and
I further observed that upon the strength of their poetry they believed
themselves to be the wisest of men in other things in which they were
not wise. So I departed, conceiving myself to be superior to them
for the same reason that I was superior to the politicians.
At last I went to the artisans, for I was conscious that I knew nothing
at all, as I may say, and I was sure that they knew many fine things;
and in this I was not mistaken, for they did know many things of which
I was ignorant, and in this they certainly were wiser than I was.
But I observed that even the good artisans fell into the same error
as the poets; because they were good workmen they thought that they
also knew all sorts of high matters, and this defect in them overshadowed
their wisdom - therefore I asked myself on behalf of the oracle, whether
I would like to be as I was, neither having their knowledge nor their
ignorance, or like them in both; and I made answer to myself and the
oracle that I was better off as I was.
This investigation has led to my having many enemies of the worst
and most dangerous kind, and has given occasion also to many calumnies,
and I am called wise, for my hearers always imagine that I myself
possess the wisdom which I find wanting in others: but the truth is,
O men of Athens, that God only is wise; and in this oracle he means
to say that the wisdom of men is little or nothing; he is not speaking
of Socrates, he is only using my name as an illustration, as if he
said, He, O men, is the wisest, who, like Socrates, knows that his
wisdom is in truth worth nothing. And so I go my way, obedient to
the god, and make inquisition into the wisdom of anyone, whether citizen
or stranger, who appears to be wise; and if he is not wise, then in
vindication of the oracle I show him that he is not wise; and this
occupation quite absorbs me, and I have no time to give either to
any public matter of interest or to any concern of my own, but I am
in utter poverty by reason of my devotion to the god.
There is another thing: - young men of the richer classes, who have
not much to do, come about me of their own accord; they like to hear
the pretenders examined, and they often imitate me, and examine others
themselves; there are plenty of persons, as they soon enough discover,
who think that they know something, but really know little or nothing:
and then those who are examined by them instead of being angry with
themselves are angry with me: This confounded Socrates, they say;
this villainous misleader of youth! - and then if somebody asks them,
Why, what evil does he practise or teach? they do not know, and cannot
tell; but in order that they may not appear to be at a loss, they
repeat the ready-made charges which are used against all philosophers
about teaching things up in the clouds and under the earth, and having
no gods, and making the worse appear the better cause; for they do
not like to confess that their pretence of knowledge has been detected
- which is the truth: and as they are numerous and ambitious and energetic,
and are all in battle array and have persuasive tongues, they have
filled your ears with their loud and inveterate calumnies. And this
is the reason why my three accusers, Meletus and Anytus and Lycon,
have set upon me; Meletus, who has a quarrel with me on behalf of
the poets; Anytus, on behalf of the craftsmen; Lycon, on behalf of
the rhetoricians: and as I said at the beginning, I cannot expect
to get rid of this mass of calumny all in a moment. And this, O men
of Athens, is the truth and the whole truth; I have concealed nothing,
I have dissembled nothing. And yet I know that this plainness of speech
makes them hate me, and what is their hatred but a proof that I am
speaking the truth? - this is the occasion and reason of their slander
of me, as you will find out either in this or in any future inquiry.
I have said enough in my defence against the first class of my accusers;
I turn to the second class, who are headed by Meletus, that good and
patriotic man, as he calls himself. And now I will try to defend myself
against them: these new accusers must also have their affidavit read.
What do they say? Something of this sort: - That Socrates is a doer
of evil, and corrupter of the youth, and he does not believe in the
gods of the state, and has other new divinities of his own. That is
the sort of charge; and now let us examine the particular counts.
He says that I am a doer of evil, who corrupt the youth; but I say,
O men of Athens, that Meletus is a doer of evil, and the evil is that
he makes a joke of a serious matter, and is too ready at bringing
other men to trial from a pretended zeal and interest about matters
in which he really never had the smallest interest. And the truth
of this I will endeavor to prove.
Come hither, Meletus, and let me ask a question of you. You think
a great deal about the improvement of youth?
Yes, I do.
Tell the judges, then, who is their improver; for you must know, as
you have taken the pains to discover their corrupter, and are citing
and accusing me before them. Speak, then, and tell the judges who
their improver is. Observe, Meletus, that you are silent, and have
nothing to say. But is not this rather disgraceful, and a very considerable
proof of what I was saying, that you have no interest in the matter?
Speak up, friend, and tell us who their improver is.
The laws.
But that, my good sir, is not my meaning. I want to know who the person
is, who, in the first place, knows the laws.
The judges, Socrates, who are present in court.
What do you mean to say, Meletus, that they are able to instruct and
improve youth?
Certainly they are.
What, all of them, or some only and not others?
All of them.
By the goddess Here, that is good news! There are plenty of improvers,
then. And what do you say of the audience, - do they improve them?
Yes, they do.
And the senators?
Yes, the senators improve them.
But perhaps the members of the citizen assembly corrupt them? - or
do they too improve them?
They improve them.
Then every Athenian improves and elevates them; all with the exception
of myself; and I alone am their corrupter? Is that what you affirm?
That is what I stoutly affirm.
I am very unfortunate if that is true. But suppose I ask you a question:
Would you say that this also holds true in the case of horses? Does
one man do them harm and all the world good? Is not the exact opposite
of this true? One man is able to do them good, or at least not many;
- the trainer of horses, that is to say, does them good, and others
who have to do with them rather injure them? Is not that true, Meletus,
of horses, or any other animals? Yes, certainly. Whether you and Anytus
say yes or no, that is no matter. Happy indeed would be the condition
of youth if they had one corrupter only, and all the rest of the world
were their improvers. And you, Meletus, have sufficiently shown that
you never had a thought about the young: your carelessness is seen
in your not caring about matters spoken of in this very indictment.
And now, Meletus, I must ask you another question: Which is better,
to live among bad citizens, or among good ones? Answer, friend, I
say; for that is a question which may be easily answered. Do not the
good do their neighbors good, and the bad do them evil?
Certainly.
And is there anyone who would rather be injured than benefited by
those who live with him? Answer, my good friend; the law requires
you to answer - does anyone like to be injured?
Certainly not.
And when you accuse me of corrupting and deteriorating the youth,
do you allege that I corrupt them intentionally or unintentionally?
Intentionally, I say.
But you have just admitted that the good do their neighbors good,
and the evil do them evil. Now is that a truth which your superior
wisdom has recognized thus early in life, and am I, at my age, in
such darkness and ignorance as not to know that if a man with whom
I have to live is corrupted by me, I am very likely to be harmed by
him, and yet I corrupt him, and intentionally, too; - that is what
you are saying, and of that you will never persuade me or any other
human being. But either I do not corrupt them, or I corrupt them unintentionally,
so that on either view of the case you lie. If my offence is unintentional,
the law has no cognizance of unintentional offences: you ought to
have taken me privately, and warned and admonished me; for if I had
been better advised, I should have left off doing what I only did
unintentionally - no doubt I should; whereas you hated to converse
with me or teach me, but you indicted me in this court, which is a
place not of instruction, but of punishment.
I have shown, Athenians, as I was saying, that Meletus has no care
at all, great or small, about the matter. But still I should like
to know, Meletus, in what I am affirmed to corrupt the young. I suppose
you mean, as I infer from your indictment, that I teach them not to
acknowledge the gods which the state acknowledges, but some other
new divinities or spiritual agencies in their stead. These are the
lessons which corrupt the youth, as you say.
Yes, that I say emphatically.
Then, by the gods, Meletus, of whom we are speaking, tell me and the
court, in somewhat plainer terms, what you mean! for I do not as yet
understand whether you affirm that I teach others to acknowledge some
gods, and therefore do believe in gods and am not an entire atheist
- this you do not lay to my charge; but only that they are not the
same gods which the city recognizes - the charge is that they are
different gods. Or, do you mean to say that I am an atheist simply,
and a teacher of atheism?
I mean the latter - that you are a complete atheist.
That is an extraordinary statement, Meletus. Why do you say that?
Do you mean that I do not believe in the godhead of the sun or moon,
which is the common creed of all men?
I assure you, judges, that he does not believe in them; for he says
that the sun is stone, and the moon earth.
Friend Meletus, you think that you are accusing Anaxagoras; and you
have but a bad opinion of the judges, if you fancy them ignorant to
such a degree as not to know that those doctrines are found in the
books of Anaxagoras the Clazomenian, who is full of them. And these
are the doctrines which the youth are said to learn of Socrates, when
there are not unfrequently exhibitions of them at the theatre (price
of admission one drachma at the most); and they might cheaply purchase
them, and laugh at Socrates if he pretends to father such eccentricities.
And so, Meletus, you really think that I do not believe in any god?
I swear by Zeus that you believe absolutely in none at all.
You are a liar, Meletus, not believed even by yourself. For I cannot
help thinking, O men of Athens, that Meletus is reckless and impudent,
and that he has written this indictment in a spirit of mere wantonness
and youthful bravado. Has he not compounded a riddle, thinking to
try me? He said to himself: - I shall see whether this wise Socrates
will discover my ingenious contradiction, or whether I shall be able
to deceive him and the rest of them. For he certainly does appear
to me to contradict himself in the indictment as much as if he said
that Socrates is guilty of not believing in the gods, and yet of believing
in them - but this surely is a piece of fun.
I should like you, O men of Athens, to join me in examining what I
conceive to be his inconsistency; and do you, Meletus, answer. And
I must remind you that you are not to interrupt me if I speak in my
accustomed manner.
Did ever man, Meletus, believe in the existence of human things, and
not of human beings? . . . I wish, men of Athens, that he would answer,
and not be always trying to get up an interruption. Did ever any man
believe in horsemanship, and not in horses? or in flute-playing, and
not in flute-players? No, my friend; I will answer to you and to the
court, as you refuse to answer for yourself. There is no man who ever
did. But now please to answer the next question: Can a man believe
in spiritual and divine agencies, and not in spirits or demigods?
He cannot.
I am glad that I have extracted that answer, by the assistance of
the court; nevertheless you swear in the indictment that I teach and
believe in divine or spiritual agencies (new or old, no matter for
that); at any rate, I believe in spiritual agencies, as you say and
swear in the affidavit; but if I believe in divine beings, I must
believe in spirits or demigods; - is not that true? Yes, that is true,
for I may assume that your silence gives assent to that. Now what
are spirits or demigods? are they not either gods or the sons of gods?
Is that true?
Yes, that is true.
But this is just the ingenious riddle of which I was speaking: the
demigods or spirits are gods, and you say first that I don't believe
in gods, and then again that I do believe in gods; that is, if I believe
in demigods. For if the demigods are the illegitimate sons of gods,
whether by the Nymphs or by any other mothers, as is thought, that,
as all men will allow, necessarily implies the existence of their
parents. You might as well affirm the existence of mules, and deny
that of horses and asses. Such nonsense, Meletus, could only have
been intended by you as a trial of me.
